Why Frozen fails as art

33 thoughts on “Why Frozen fails as art”

1. This video is strange to me, I'm a great fan of Peterson but the subject matter seems trivial to me. Reading the comments is hilarious. Many men just come off as bitter here, recycling Petersons claim that Frozen is ideological propaganda. It's a kids film, not a threatening symbol of toxic feminism

2. In art school they try to force you to explain what you are doing.

3. I AM NO LONGER A FAN OF JP

4. 9:26 I do not understand this philosophy that it is a women's responsibility to change a bad man into a good man. None of what he said here made an sense.

5. I 100% disagree with Dr Peterson when he says that art cannot make a moral statement. I would like to know what he defines as "art".

6. Hes so dumb

7. He has no clue about art

8. Ya we love Russian art …lol hes so lame

9. Aspartame….is NOT good!!

10. Why is his hair blue

11. Finally someone who gets how my mind works when I'm writing. When thinking or talking about my stories, I do it in a way that would make it seem like fact, like it's something I learned from someone else as opposed to doing it myself. It's an exploration of how human this character can be, not just sitting down and adding characteristics to a D&D sheet and calling it a day. My big test for my characters to pass before they actually become characters in the story is for me to put them in a scenario I know they will never encounter in said story, and ask myself what they would do. If I know how they would act in a setting completely disconnected from the plot I want to work them into, then I actually understand my character and can use him or her well. Or in some cases not knowing how they will act because they're just such unpredictable people is what passes the test.

12. This might just be the best definition of art that I've ever heard.

13. What he's saying about art is so fucking retarded it hurts.

14. Yes, to Dostoevsky!!!

15. I would like to hear his take on Fate/Stay Night and it's take on the hero's journey, facing and integrating the shadow (quite literally in ubw) as well as Shiro's relentless persuit of taking responsibility for everything around him.

16. Great Piece!!!

17. Let's look back at the latest Disney princess movies. Tiana, from Princess and the Frog, dreams of owning her own business and not depend on a love interest, she ends up marrying the prince, but restaurant comes first.
    Merida, from Brave, loaths the idea of marrying a lord from the adjacent kingdoms, at the end of the movie the filial love for her mother takes center place and Merida doesn't marry.
    Now, I can't really remember Tangled, but I know something great could have been done with the Rapunzel story and sadly is another movie about a strong willed girl who doesn't really need the hero's help. They do marry at the end though.
    And we arrive to the masterpiece, Frozen. What can be said about this movie. Love between sisters, something that should be beautiful but in the context of this movie is just creepy. And then, there's silly wide eyed Anna, who dreams of her prince charming, whom ends up being a frog and of course her love interest at the end is a working man. This teaches girls to set their sights low in their expectations for men.
    I grew up watching Snow White and Sleeping Beauty and it shows in my personality.
    This movies are just Disney movies to us adults, but they have a stronger influence on little girls than we might think. I would never let a daughter of mine watch these twisted feminist movies.

18. What about the Lion King is borderline propaganda and pushing views? Can someone explain?

19. Navel-gazing. It's like cocaine for young girls and financially that's all that counts. Who thinks of kids movies as art?? Whingeing about movies for 6 year old girls FFS …

20. fuuk just took a shower and would love a soda like his!!!

21. Y'all got any more of them pixels?

22. Well. That's a weight loss program I want to follow.
    He was sooo FLUFFEEE!

23. fuck logan. worst movie ever.
    turned that shit off.
    wait the new mummy was worse.

24. its a real shame he is religious it diminishes the stuff he says n corrupts him

25. this video made me want a soda. Goddamn it!

26. This is exactly wrong. "Why do you think Disney movies are so popular?" Why would it have anything to do with archetypes? Disney was the first in a market of feature animated films and they seized market control, it's less to do with any of the individual stories and more to do with novelty and competitive advantages they held.

    It's always been a propaganda machine. If you think of Frozen as propaganda, you have to consider that Snow White might also be propaganda. I think it's pretty obvious that it might be. Frozen peddles the popular ideology of our time. Snow White (& Peterson) peddle the popular ideology of the past. To claim one is more noble or more realistic than the other is silly.

    I'm making a video on this observation of Peterson's now. The way he analyzes movies is ass backwards.

27. How much soda is in that can?!?!?!!!

28. Brought to you by: COCA-COLA ZERO

29. Moana is top notch, one of my favorite movies.

30. Tangled is so much better than Frozen. As the years go by, I find myself resonating more with Tangled and caring less about Frozen. I actually don’t really care if I ever watch it again, but I can watch Tangled over and over. Frozen’s music is admittedly better but the story is very weak and forced.

31. I think Frozen has very balanced archetypes. One is the teenager that wants to please everyone so she is easy to use. The other is a teenager that is afraid of everyone so she closes herself off. I like how both characters have to go through their own unique trials and pain to deal with their character flaws.

32. "Someone who's a true artist doesn't have a political message" Tell that to John Lennon. Oh and Mr. Peterson just committed to the no true Scotsman fallacy. FAIL.

33. Imagine having him as your teacher…. i would never skip class

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