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Of course you use queuing as an example. (Just an American being cheeky 😉
Well done presentation!!
I guess this is probably why democracy both works and doesn't work at the same time.
Is it really true that it gets easier to speak out against the majority opinion? I'm a naturally pretty outspoken person but in recent years I've found it more and more difficult and anxiety-inducing to speak out on controversial matters when I know I'm going against what my friends think…
Thank you very much for this video – very well done.
Not sure you're always employing the warnings you so clearly explained in the Atheist group. But this video is so very well done that I'm going to assume and accept an element of personal growth is responsible. Indeed you may very well be applying it to the groups and communities you identify with.
Wow! I've been looking for this and I'm so happy I found it! So nicely put and explained. I agree completely. Thank you for sharing!
I find this video (and most of your videos) very instructive and interesting.
Authentic self: 'I don't like activity X (dancing)' .
An observation: I agree with your point in this part of the video, but I would also like to point out that it is often interesting to try new experiences and to see if you can enjoy them in some way. Sometimes people say they don't like something 'too early'. Because they have only tried once (or never tried it). It happens to me that the first time I try a dish (or a strange song) I don't like it but the second or the third I am more used to the flavour and I like it a lot. So before saying you don't like an activity I suggest you consider trying it or think about why you don't really like it. However, it is a personal decision to decide which things you like to do and which things you don't like to do. People shouldn't feel obliged by the group to like something or to do something (as you point out in the video).
"The emperor has no cloths" springs do mind.
In first grade (I was 6 years old) my teacher wrote 1×1 on the board and asked the class "What is one times one?" The first kid said "two", and so did the next kid, and the next and all the kids before me. When it was my turn to answer, being the naive child I was I proudly said "ONE". All the kids looked at me as if I had gone mad. The kid after me thought for a while and answered "two", and so did the rest.
I'll never forget that moment. At first I was very pleased with myself, but as I grew older I started feeling as if there was something I had missed, some unspoken rule I had broken. There apparently was something which all the other kids understood, but I didn't. It didn't seem to matter to them if they were wrong, what was more important was this:
"If I'm wrong, at least everyone else is also wrong."
I broke this spell. I had made them all look like idiots.
Sadly I have spent most of my life trying to solve this riddle of conformity, and I have attributed much of my suffering in life to my inability to conform. I've really, really tried my best, but it is as if there have been some hidden dimension to which I'm not privy. I've been labeled arrogant and rebellious for not complying to social conventions; for wearing strange clothes, using difficult words, not maintaining eye contact and so on. And it has puzzled me to no end how these details could be so very important to others.
Turning this mindset around and instead starting to embrace my peculiar nature is very distressing. What I find most difficult is having to tell people again and again that their well meaning advice to me is completely useless and unhelpful. It's a very alienating experience, but I hope ultimately worth it.
lol i can only think of goth kids from south park now
Humans amuse me… Chuckles I never conform, I simply do not understand why I should. Unless I gain something specific by pretending to do so of course, or risk some rather unpleasant consequences for not doing so, but I do not delude myself and believe in it. I keep studying psychology, but I don't think I will ever truly understand you humans…
Also, why would anyone want acceptance that badly? I have a friend that hates my guts but sticks around because I never directly lie. You just need to find an angle to make people stick, make it worth their while, and there is no need to conform at all. Especially when you are someone who's likable deep down. (Unlike me, which, in all likelihood, deserves to burn in Hell for all eternity. Chuckles)
I like you. ^^
"Where's your will to be weird?" – Morrison
Just like the story of "the king's new robe"
fuck yeahLike the band Circle of the Fallen says "Question ALL!"
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Order=Conformity, Freedom=Chaos. It is there where the conundrum of our existence lies.
My sentiments exactly.
This video is more important now than ever.
Just look at the ideological group think pouring through, and being taught in classes at Uni's in the west today.
the problem is that is very hard to survive outside groups. if you have different values,aspirations etc, you may not fit in any group. you may not have friendly acquaintances (social friends), and also not being integrated in society is the opposite of attraction, so you may not have a life partner/lover. that's why people choose to conform.
otherwise you're kind of a martyr.
This is by far the best channel that have subscribed to ????
More please ………… this is brain food for me!!! 🙂
Let's try an experiment:
l know that money is not real and does not exist. l know that the existence of money is only because we use it as part of the way we define our world our reality.
Money is not real, yet to 99.9% of people in society they cannot think of a world without money. Conforming to this allows our society to interact and work together. We each do a task and receive a reward which allows us to use the products and services of each other. Without conformity it would be impossible to do so if money was not essential to each of us. But this does not make it real, nor does it mean it is actually necessary. However it does allow us to do certain things and sustain a way of living and a quality of life. The downside is money rules us, limits us, and blinds us to a better option.
Money is not real. lt has us looking at gold as more valuable than water, and oil more than air. While one is more rare and the other creates convenience and comfort, it distorts our values into harmful decisions making what is essential as expendable, and what is needed as too costly. People go hungry because money has no interest in the human condition, profit is all that matters. We are driven to conform to be consumers to buy more and more often than what we need. Products are made to fail in order to sustain a thriving business. Yet we conform and only the amount of money we make limits our desire to have and to possess more.
So ends my experience. Maybe if l had said these things when you were young you would question the need, function, and existence of money. Money is often the main thing needed for any action to make life or the world better. Yet it blinds us to the truth that money does nothing and that we ourselves are the ones who provide for each other everything we need and everything for our livelihood and well being.
People are afraid to be left out or ridiculed for having their own opinion …same difference i suppose …but overall this leads to them following the noise just for the sake of not being left out out of fear of being alone regardless of what they believe in.
i do that all the time, and it constantly pisses people of, because i don't want to blindly follow rules i don't understand. But people who don't get me, think i'm being angry, difficult and childish, for questioning them, especially if they themselves can't even follow the rules they set, and i point it out, they just get more angry, and deny what they do, and start pointing fingers at me, and start accusing me of stuff i haven't done, so they don't have to look at their own flaws.
The exercise at 2:26 is bogus. You refer to people as subjects. One can be subject to a king, not a mad professor. Then the people were not informed that the other people would just give an answer the mad professor arbitrarily asked them to give.
Thus, Fox News!
I’ve gotten used to the fact that I don’t conform. I’m always the outsider. Yet I still have the fantasy that one day, I will meet my group. I realize this probably will never happen, but I can dream!
I guess I am anti-social or however you want to call it. When I had a different opinion than the group, I still had the opinion until I was convinced otherwise, not just because the group had another. And that applies to facts as well.
Chilling if combined with identity politics victimhood confirmation…
perceptions are genuinely distorted, that means that group opinion has the potential to affect an individual's information processing on a very profound level
Thank you, this is worth consideration.
A video about conformity that I am questioning all the information presented I'm the video. Whether to conform in my group to agree or disagree with the info presented, I choose to listen like I'm wrong but speak up like I'm right about the topic of conformity.