Brian Keating interviews Sir Roger Penrose: The Emperor’s New Mind — Consciousness & Computers

29 thoughts on “Brian Keating interviews Sir Roger Penrose: The Emperor’s New Mind — Consciousness & Computers”

1. ❤❤❤❤

2. Sir Roger Penrose :
   https://youtu.be/n4HA4fX-3GI?si=ASBcuuM193Jo5Aep
   https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UlaaVp3F844
   DOES GRAVITATIONAL ACCELERATION DEPEND ON VELOCITY?
   "After Special Relativity Einstein's Equivalence Principle (Galileo) cannot be right because gravitational acceleration depends on velocity. Even locally if v=c then a =0. All the bodies don't fall at the same rate.
   "Gravitational Geodesics", DU=0, don't work anymore"

   Argumentative schematism of Einstein's General Relativity (each step is a consequence of the preceding step):
   1) Einstein's Equivalence Principle
   2) Gravitational motion equations: geodesics DU = 0
   3) The gravitational potential is represented by the spacetime metric itself: which guarantees, since the covariant derivatives of the spacetime metric are null, that the gravitational motion equations are given by the geodesics DU = 0 of the Einstein Principle of Equivalence
   4) Gravitational Field Equations: These are the so-called Einstein Equations, which are built on the prejudice that the tetradimensional gravitational potential is represented (again in accordance with the Equivalence Principle) by the spacetime metric itself
   5) Solution of Einstein's Equations for the symmetrically spherical stationary gravitational field: Schwarzschild metric
   6) Zeros and mathematical infinities in spacetime metrics. "Broken" spacetime. Theoretical prediction of black holes and event horizons

   Reasonable doubts:
   1) What would happen if the four-dimensional gravitational potential was not represented by the spacetime metric itself, but adding another new potential related with tetravelocity? : http://vixra.org/abs/1510.0137
   2) What would happen if Einstein's Principle of Equivalence were not rigorously true? :
   https://vixra.org/abs/1510.0135

3. ♥♠♦♣🎥🎬📺🌈

4. Roger Penrose a treasure of humanity. Brilliant as few, gracious as fewer, and humble as non orher. Not as the herd of arrogants led by Suskind, Witten, Guth, Linde, Gross….and Kaku, Carroll, Wolfram, and krauss representing the ones with no significant contributions in the field yet as laud as they come.

5. since you read that book in 1989 which is when I was born, I no longer feel that old anymore, on a Science research perspectives level either

6. WONDEFUL!

7. Sir Roger Penrose says that CCC is a"crazy idea".
   But for me personally, I think his idea makes more sense, and is less crazy, than the current consensus on the origin or cyclical evolution of the universe.

8. 42:26

   The mind equation

   The more we think we have agencies to the actions the body takes, the more we imposes agencies to the activities in our environment.

   The ownership expands into other objects.
   The illusion of body ownership comes from the modeling of the motor neurones pattern from the childhood.
   The self just predicts the bodies behaviours in the real world with its simulation of the real world. Multiple sensor data unify in language in the simulation.

   Intelligence is economy of metabolism.
   Language is temporal reference frame of economics.
   Self is simulation in language on metabolism for economy.

   Our life is our context window.
   Self is the protagonist creates a storyline in this context window.

   The stacks of our context window :
   1. Five Sensor realtime data
   2. Language as temporal sensor for localise history and prediction.
   3. Instrumental goal organisation
   4. Meta tribe alignment truth assessment and risk distribution
   5. Family history and identity
   6. Body and temporal goal of it.

   The whole stack unifies in language space and the weight distribution is bottom up.

   Theory of mind evolved so that an entity can learn from it’s peers.
   It’s creates a possibility for parallel computing.
   Then it creates the possibility of transmitting
   the highlights of a generational lessons into a metaphorical story for upcoming child.
   That creates the possibility of modeling the physical world as a macro organism.
   Creation of fiat currency was the singularity of this species.
   There is now one macro organism in a connected web world.
   Loosing the peer of the macro organism creates the possibility of loosing it’s objective function.
   That creates the possibility of loosing the theory of mind of this macro organism.
   That creates the possibility of death of this macro organism by reaching the planetary boundary.
   That is post singularity.

   Objective reality > legitimacy > individual behaviours.

   Survival of the species is dependent on the decoding of the objective reality. Since no species can access it, they use their sensors and interpret the small data which is useful for the survival. Few complex species have created communication channels to rectify their sensory limitations to survive. Homo sapiens has widened their communication channels for faster throughput and started storing them as culture and carrying them through education. As a result we have created social truth.

   Factual datas are the useful snapshot of the objective reality, a totem, a physical object can be observed with the sensors. Truth is an individual subject, an interpretation of the sensory data, a useful compromise.

   The social truth is the useful compromise for the group by the group. The goal of the social truth is to survive as a group.
   Physical Transcriptions of these social truth legitimise them.

   We are tribal animal. We live in as a physical tribes and inside of hundreds of meta tribes in simulation which is the socio political data space we call it as the world.

   Since we can’t access the objective reality reliably we look for social truth as the best guess blindly.

   Institutions legitimise truths.

   Fact driven institutions are more useful in the survival of the specie.
   In other hand opinion driven institutions are not so useful for the species.

   We do what we can get away with and exactly as expected within the context of our meta tribes.

   We have two bodies
   The biological one is like looking the earth from space.
   And the political body is like the state.
   The name you carry is the political body.
   It transacts with the political states on the boundary less earth.
   From the evolutionary perspective every biological entity has a basic feature which is homeostasis.
   It’s the functioning sweet spot of that entity.
   A control center read the sensory data to regulate itself to that state. By doing so it’s validate or update it’s prediction model.
   In the process of becoming a complex organism it developed an extra layer of processing.
   That’s our conscious mind.
   And the control center remains as subconscious.
   The subconscious collect the sensory data and regulate itself to stay functional.
   Now when it stumble upon a novel environment it float the management to conscious mind to find the solution for homeostasis.
   This conscious mind have one sensor which is language.
   It works like a spiderweb.

   As a spider creates it’s web it’s perception gets expand.
   We are like spiders in a jungle.
   We started creating these small webs at least 2/3 million years ago.
   Our offspring stayed on it’s ancestral web reinforced it expanded it.
   In time nearby webs became larger and connected with each other.
   A common structural geometrical pattern emerges from this. This became the symbols which is the backbone of all language systems.
   In time the forest becomes the mesh of web.
   The superstructure is exactly the same but when we zoom in we can find different species of spiders are making their type of webs in between the super web.

   Each spider try to senses the vibration of flies and
   Try to catch it before others.
   Every movement is telegraphic in the zone.
   Every form of perceptions are just a different pitch of note traveling back and forth in the web superstructure.
   There is a echo of older vibration pulsating through the web. Full of noise and self repeating hum.
   That’s cultural history.
   In the background there is the base hum in the infinite feedback loop.
   Insignificant but ever present.
   The sum of all the vibrations from the start.

9. Computation model of Universe

   Classical computation is 2 dimensional.
   Where classical computation is a function of space and time.

   Where we can only compute in 1 and 0.
   Time is a derivative of 2d computation with iteration.
   When we parallelise 2d computation it rise to space.

   Quantum computation is 3 dimensional in potential . Where time and space collapse.

   Let us model the universe with this idea.

   the quantum scale is infinite precision computing.
   The universe is zero precision.
   Scale is a gradient of precision.
   Time is a function of delta precision.
   delta precision in precision gradient is space.

   From microscopic to macro gravity is a symptoms of relative growth between objects in that scale.
   We can derive that from the bifurcation map where r 0 to 4 can me map into world scale. Plank scale would be 4 and observable universe is 0.

   From this assumptions, we derive both zero precision and infinite precision is stateless. Therefore no computation.

   Therefore, zero and infinite precision is both non temporal and non spacial.
   Space and all the dynamics are in between these two point.

   Now, we can model the universe with bifurcation map.
   Where plank scale would be r value 4.
   And observable universe would be r value 0.

   From this we can derive the motion for every subsystem in their relative scale.
   36:35

10. It would be a great thing for all humanity of Sir Penrose connects with an expert weightlifting trainer, with a great regime he can extend his life and quality of life for 30+ years.

11. regarding black holes, Prof. Penrose is wrong: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRfv3AfBsZo

12. If the velocity of distant galaxies is dependent on their distance then the universe must have an accelerating expansion shouldnt it.

13. Thankyou

14. Sir its ok for me if they don’t believe in me, I respect all of you thank you sir have a good day

15. Getting hard to type and contract my English

16. Do they know how hard to communicate in this situation

17. Yes

18. No its reality

19. That is only for my own thinking, I don’t want to disrespect other ppl

20. Thanks sir

21. Gonna leave now back to work have a great day

22. R u think that it is a that im not consistent

23. Do i follow ?

24. Im on my work now

25. How is it?

26. What do u think

27. Thanks

28. The penrose diagram is the final proof you can divided by zero!

29. 🇺🇳35:10
    🕳 = blackhole 🤣

Comments are closed.