GoogleTechTalks
Google Workshop on Quantum Biology
Classical and Quantum Information in DNA
Presented by Elisabeth Rieper
October 22, 2010
ABSTRACT
DNA stores and replicates information. Special sequences of different nucleic acids (adenine, cytosine, guanine, thymine) encode life’s blueprints. These nucleic acids can be divided into a classical part (massive core) and a quantum part (electron shell and single protons). The laws of quantum mechanics map the classical information (A,C,G,T) onto the configuration of electrons and position of single protons. Although DNA replication requires perfect copies of the classical information, the core that constitutes this information does not directly interact with the copying machine. Instead, only the quantum degrees of freedom are measured. Thus successful copying requires a correct translation of classical to quantum to classical information. It has been shown [1] that the electronic system is well shielded from thermal noise. This leads to entanglement inside the DNA helix. It is an open question if this entanglement influences the genetic information processing. In this talk I will discuss possible consequences of entanglement for the information flow and the similarities and differences between classical computing, quantum computing and DNA information processing.
[1] E. Rieper, J. Anders, V. Vedral: The relevance of continuous variable entanglement in DNA, arXiv:1006.4053
About the speaker: Elisabeth Rieper – 2007: Diploma thesis in entanglement theory under supervision of Reinhard Werner. Since 2008: PhD studies in ‘Quantum Coherence in Biological Systems’ at CQT Singapore under supervision of Vlatko Vedral. This includes both finite dimensional entanglement (spin-spin entanglement in the avian compass, arxiv: 0906.3725) as well as infinite dimensional entanglement (phonons in the electronic degrees of freedom in DNA, arxiv: 1006.4053), exploiting correlations for work extraction (The work value of information, arXiv:0908.0424) and complexity theory.
Currently investigating the possible influence of entanglement on the information flow in biological systems.
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6:35 she said “hard drive”, not “hot wife”
This means of course we'll never be able to copy a consciousness. That's a shame as I had hoped to be able to download mine before I died….
It makes me wonder if quantum entanglements transmit the phase of polarization.
Good.
In-form-ation, formulae, active format, modules of resonances => Act-uality of Time Timing Spinfoam, QM-Time Totality => Phys-Chem connection of Recorded Feedback, DNA etc of the living systems.
Good talk for 2010…
Very interesting approach. DNA is in deed a quantum system. The problem is to find its logic gates. Binary code has only 2 digits and 7 logic gates. For a 4 digits code will need way more than this… in the digital world.
Assert this:
The DNA helix has 2 SIDES: L(left), R (right)
T = UP in L, DOWN in R
A = LEFT in L, RIGHT in R
C = DOWN in L, UP in R
G = RIGHT in L, LEFT in R
Assert an T A G A C G A string => T->A, A->T, G->C, A->T, C->G, G->C, A->T
Result :
UP-RIGHT
LEFT-DOWN
DOWN-UP
LEFT-DOWN
DOWN-LEFT
RIGHT-UP
LEFT-DOWN
This is a very trivial simulation with comprehensive terms…
As you can see will NEVER be UP-DOWN or LEFT-RIGHT situations that can cancel themselves off…
What she said is sketchy because is a beginning… but is a very strong starting point for a new area of research. Good stuff!
Some one asked long ago…
Q: what bosson participate in the interaction of molecules into cells, cells into tissues, tissues into organs etc?
A) though bosons act as field catalysts and stimulus on quantum field level, field catalysts and stimilus on eather field level are different..enzymes..etc
Unfortunately for the ether field unlike the quantum field, it converges through vibrational frequency and diverges through frequency resonation inform of vibration frequency resonation..eather not a medium but vibrational frequency resonation.
Frequency resonation converts negentropy into entropy through classical landscape(which is quantum info in nature), and vibration frequency converts entropy into negentropy through quantum field(which is classical info in nature).
And when. And the classical quantum reduction and production justifies the complex limits of vibration frequency resonation in polynomial time.
She has a super position of r's and w's. But she's fantastic though, great presentation!
tell me one person that understands this and hes even dumber than the people that didnt understand it!! hHAHAHAHAA
quantum mechanics is bullshit. 🙂
Correct, Quantum Prophecies, only the carrier is physical. In addition, information in Shannon's theory is not the H of the source as implied here, but the difference of the source H overall with that of a particular message received.
Can't understand at 26:23 why does she say the classical channel is too small. Bit quick for me at that bit.
Anybody understand?
hot wife=hard drive please read the subtitles people.
5:19 logarithm of that number… sorry google-youtube your caption writing algorithm clearly misses her accent. Maybe, much later when quantum computer AI-s will do sound recognition but by then percepcion will be anyway questionable by todays terms. and all consciousness probably merge in the future with some quantum device with AI. Plus V.R. and A.R. like that of birds vision and earth's magnetic field.
4:59 – Shannon entropy
I don't think she understands the physical chemistry of DNA…
Such a great talk, so many strange comments, many commenters without even a profile pic. MFW this thread O_o
I also enjoyed this article, which condenses some of the information discussed here. I look forward to future work, particularly experiments, but also see little reason to hesitate in the exploration and application of such ideas.
http://www.technologyreview.com/view/419590/quantum-entanglement-holds-dna-together-say-physicists/
8m0s Wow! What a idiotic gross leap of faith to jump to the dumbass conclusion that QM is no good for biology.
6m17s She had better not wrongly think she can take the interesting analogy between "entropy" defined for information theory & "entropy" defined for statistical physics & thermodynamics too far.
vewi interwesting.
In our country there are witches "mangkukulam" who uses a strand of hair to make undesirable things in a persons body. the explanation is as simple as quantum entanglement within the codes in the DNA or the DNA itself. Although the owner of the strand of hair is miles away, or even light years away, the alteration in a single strand of hair can produce debilitating or even deadly effects on the owner of that hair, or It can even make someone love somebody. Witches know more about quantum psychics and quantum entanglement than us.. they know who to access the codes within the DNA. Meaning they know what are the factors that effect the evolution of DNA.
"information is physical" – no, it requires a "physical carrier"
This is an amazing talk, presented with incredible coherence. Even as a non-technical viewer (a quantum biology fan but with no technical training) it was so easy to follow, and understand. Thank you!
It is so good to see a woman presenting on these youtube quantum physics/biology lectures
Kb is a constant, dont care too much about its meaning, haha, why do you physicists always say that?!? Obviously it matter!!!!
I believe the observer problem is real and that this is trying to be trivialized by the dogmatic materialists. If you incorporate the anthropic principles, we may be on to why the universe has to be fined tuned and that was inevitable, as an intelligent conscious observer designed things "just so" trying to postulate multiple universes without any evidence of their existence is a cheap shot and shameless adding of complexity on top of complexity which is a no-no of Occam's razor apart. It almost seems a a desperate attempt to keep intelligence and consciousness somehow "supernatural" when all of our examples show us that it is just as natural as any other part of particle physics. Just because one is stuck in thinking that consciousness is the Epiphenomenon of matter, does not make it so. Penrose and others have done a spectacular job keeping the rational explanations rather than the fantasies and faith statements of scientists from distracting us this very exciting and elegant solution. The ONLY reason for a multiverse theory was to nullify probabilities that are not just a tad right but scream out that it was not a "bang" it was more like a growth of an intelligent system. I predict we will slow down eventually in expansion, just like a brain does after its growth spurt.
Cloning requires not just observation, but an intelligence driving the result, this I think takes away just a tad from what she is saying. Cloning is actually only what we observer after intelligently designing to achieve a result. For what that is worth.
Grghhh.
The female version of Kripky from the Big Bang Theory. Good lecture!
That should work…as long as she…and anyone else…isn't forced to actually observe them.
The answer is yes,yes,yes and no but the variable are to many for you or any human to know that is just the way it is. Some questions should not even be asked it is not for us to know Can you grasp this now?
Hope her kind inherits the Earth and not the quint eyed, weasel faced sociopaths Corporate Banker Lawyer reptilians of Big Pharma and Monsanto.
so charmant wie großartig.
She has a speech imperilment, hehe
rude
Please type "True Theory of Everything Quadrant Model of Reality 1" into YouTube for the theory of everything. Thank you.
As long term biochemist UCB graduate and Chinese Medical doctor, I find this brilliant…entanglement has been experienced in TCM treatments, dreams and life… great courage you have to propose the science!!
long term stowage haha im sorry pretty funny though
hahaha kornbelt I agree! LoL! verty powerfully alluring and enticing is the sapio-sexual female!
seriously, imo this presentation introduces a breakthrough, yet in a video watched by some 17,000. I zhink zee should write a paper on zhis.
ze information is ze zusefull zhank you mizz
Now I know I'm a geek because I understood that 🙂