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High profile atheist philosopher Daniel C Dennett goes head to head with Christian theologian Keith Ward in this extract from their debate on mind, consciousness and freewill.
In this excerpt they debate the nature of the brain.
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Loved this episode!
I’d like to suggest Robert sapolsky as a guest
I don't agree entirely with Keith on everything. I still favor his viewpoint here. Conscientiousness is a vast problem, that any & all measurements we have devised have fallen short of defining it adroitly. It either removes important parts of what it is to be or the measure is so vague & abstract, as to be useless in any meaningful analysis. We have to refer to self reference, like we do for what the color red is to a person.
We know the wave length of red light. We know how to know it is present. We know what pigment will absorb the other colors of light, but reflect red. What we cannot measure is the quality of knowing redness. Not even our most advanced ai can know redness, just the presence of red light.
There is this qualitative barrier there. Mr. Dennett seems to think we will get there, I am less certain. Science is great, & great scientists know we may not ever know. It is a banal fact that there is always a little something beyond what we know. When guessing, you have to affirm it is a guess.
Atoms are not "inanimate" by definition. We know they have life-spans.