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In Depth with Steven Pinker pt. 1/18
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That must be the greatest exaggeration I have heard in a while.
I was commenting on the idea that Pinker has to be one of the smartest men of the whichever century. Truth be told, I believe this to be hopelessly naive, and certainly an exaggeration.
pinker is so smart
Thanks heaps for uploading all of this, Pinker is so interesting and clear in his explanations. i'm drunk too atm but this is all so cool to listen to!
lmao – 2:00 Pinker's face after "let's get YOUR opinion"
All I can think about is the forward and introduction to How the Mind Works
The unfortunate thing about common sense is, it ain't all that common.
Steven Pinker comprehensively rules every time. Legend!
Well, well look here, isn't it beautiful how he responds, inverts the interviewer's question on nature/nurture, "It isn't nature versus nurture, BUT if it wasn't for Nature there would be no nurture." So, actually Nature is the dominant player. period end of sentence. Bullsh**t! Children and cats can unfold w brains and reflexes that are compromised. Language is not imprinted evolutionary UG (universal grammar) it depends upon certain affective co-regulated nuturance based engagement to happen!
@cnestudy1 From all his books "The Language Instinct" is the least opaque. The rest is hogwash, unless you are interested in pointless semantic hairsplitting.
What exactly is his answer at 2:09 to the question "What do you see as the main issue of the study of the brain and its relationship with how we live?" He cannot answer such important question! Why does he flounder like that? I thought he was a genius but after reading all his major works and watching his I have second thoughts. If brevity is the soul of wit then Steven Pinker is a schmuck!
at 8:21 he says that in "How the Mind Works" he tried to "share the science in the accessible way", yada yada yada You can learn from his books about humans as much as from Moby Dick about whales!
@kshackleton
and do you think he gave a satisfactory answer?
'coz he then changed the question into "why we have brains" and instead of speaking about humans talked about "intelligent organisms". I mean, c'mon why does he has to muddy his answers like that?
@kshackleton So what exactly is the main issue of the study of the brain and its relationship with how we live?
@kshackleton
"How neurons represent different visual perceptions, allowing for seemingly immediate recognition of familiar objects, remains one of the most important unanswered questions in neuroscience." Michael O'Shea "The Brain" OUP 2005
Does anybody else have the feeling that the moderator's preparation (not to say "intelligence") leaves a lot be desired?
@13Xana Come again? I quote: "If we did not have a nature that allowed us to see the world in certain ways and learn in certain ways, then nurture would have no effect. " Sorry but that is rendering the party line of hard-wired version of the world and the inane vapidness of innate hypotheses which are entirely misleading and emotionally disturbed, lol Let us reverse or invert the argument. High-falutin nods of disapproval would fly! Nature would be meaningless with nuturance which….
organizes our biogenetic to neurophysiologically into co-regulated and emotionally-cognitive and socially meaningful relationships. WIthout affect based nurturance language does not occur, or if it occurs does so in ways that are functionally autistic. In fact-rewires the brain in ways that are compromised. The human primate is essentially a fetus born outside the womb (or nine months premature), billions of neurons, which are NOT pre-programmed but REQUIRE certain interactive/nurturance based
experiences for them to become (from a neuroplasticity perspective) organized in ways that lead to preverbal emotional signaling to language. Mere exposure as it were (for cats or humans) will not lead to those experiences. Harlow's monkey was a brutal and horrible reminder of that.
@13Xanadu "Your thinking is dogmatic." Nice transference, abreaction! Studies (read into it) from a Developmental psychological perspective and as an integrated part of systems theory perspective show the opposite. Normal children differentiate between nouns and verbs my dear unenlightened on, NOT because
they are part of a fixed/innate bio-genetic module set to be triggered like puberty but because the other DEVELOPMENTAL milestones that I have spoken about here have manifested through …
primary caregiver/nurturance based practices that are essential for the apparent seamless emergence for nouns/verbs to "properly" emerge. Conversely, this DOES not happen or in a very mechanical re-enforced and prompted cued way if those nuturance based practices (e.g.,, due to abuse or due to neurodevelopmental disorders, autism). simple pleasurable joint attention; affect-reciprocal circles of gestural reciprocity; the ability to separate/hold ideas (symbols) apart from all or nothing…
catastrophic reactions…All these are part of the preverbal or affect (emotional) reciprocal foundation. This has to do with the coordination of the prefronal cortex and the limbic system, as well as the cerebellum, fusiform face area of the fusiform gyrus, etc.. The problem with Chomksy and Pinker et al is that they did from a Developmental perspective (primarily because "typically developing children" goes through these affect-stages as part of the healthy developing milestones
I meant they did NOT look from a developmental perspective. A huge and indeed an unforgivable blind spot.
@13Xanadu The Language Instinct has nothing to do with the development of language it has to do with the biological instinct of mechanical syntax which has nothing to do with the developmental basis and million sof years of non-human primate to human primate caregiver nurtuance emotional signaling practices. Now, why don't you read Stanley Greenspan/Stuart Shanker, The First Idea, to deconstruct your freshman dogmatism or deus ex machina. How we define sexuality…
is much more historically socially/culturally constructed. As far as the "vast use of function of words by children" , this is something I do as a Developmental therapist working with hundreds of families and their children, many who are on the spectrum (ASD). The vast use of unction of words has to do with the underlying or concurrent affect (emotional) paralinguistic factors of engagement. I see this daily in my practice. Once the affect emotional level of dyadic engagement…
are in place. Pleasurable joint two-way attention, increased affect sensory processing integration; ability to enact praxis )executive function in coordination with limbic system; the emergence of the child's held idea or symbol apart form fixed representation or reaction; then the child's intentionality begins to organize his praxis (emotional-problem solving dyadic circles) which then and ONLY then allows for the syntactical and pragmatical Meaningful use of lanaguage/communication!
@kshackleton Quite the opposite. It is rather caregiver/child (non-human and human primate) practices that allows the cortical (i.e., executive function of ideation, motor-planning and sequencing) and the limbic system (e.g. the amygdala of primitive emotional responses) to establish co-regulated emotional signaling connections. These preverbal affect-sensory motor connections, which are not simply the result of maturation (e.g., puberty), allows for the alignment of nouns and verbs to occur
This process is a natural part of the emerging healthy developmental milestones. When they are disrupted, let's say, because of biological insults or extremely poor caregiver nurturance they don;t occur or in a highly splintered or fragmented fashion. Nature provide merely a blueprint. Billions of neurons, a few primitive emotional reactive circuits but with the Affect connected glue (wiring) that brings it all together. Without that the wiring (language usage not potentiation
does not occur in a Neurotypical manner.Billions of neurons, a few primitive emotional reactive circuits but with the Affect connected glue (wiring) that brings it all together. Without that the wiring (language usage not potentiation does not occur in a Neurotypical manner. "The human being is an embryo outside the womb for the first 9 months of life."
@Neilgs stfu
@JustPhilippeIt Excuse moi, but up your fricken ass you minimalist acronym moron!
@Neilgs you obviously haven't read The Blank Slate
@gg0BSBZergIf you care to elaborate I would be happy to respond but unfortunately I don't respond well upon a tabula rasa,lol Methinks ye have yet to read The Language Instinct.
@Neilgs Maybe, we should all just hold hands and read the better angels of our nature
Stephen Pinker seems to not be aware at all that the biological environment affects us too. There is such a thing as epigenetics too!