Jordan Peterson | Consciousness

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1. Peterson like almost all psychologists tries to explain consciousness at a far too abstract level that gives absolute no explanation. He talks about the effects of thoughts and consciousness not what they really are. To really explain consciousness you have to start at the lowest level i.e. the sensational level and work your way up through perceptions, thoughts and feelings.

2. I think we may be close to an explanation of consciousness: https://firebasestorage.googleapis.com/v0/b/theoriesofconsciousness.appspot.com/o/PerceptualGeometryAsUnderlierOfConsciousness.pdf?alt=media&token=8e6df9e4-2525-4557-9d51-3f967973a98b

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4. Source please ??

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6. Makes sense

7. I Have Observed That conditional Existence Is a limit that Inherently and Necessarily Frustrates The Great (As Well As The Ultimate) Motives Of conditionally Manifested beings. Therefore, every individual Must—Through Struggle, and Through The Grace Of Sudden (or, Otherwise, Growing) Insight, or Through The Grace Of Sudden (or, Otherwise, Growing) Faith (or Tacit Certainty)—Learn and Accept A Life-Lesson That Makes ordinary (or worldly) heroes Great and Grants Wisdom To those who Seek The Ultimate.

   That Life-Lesson Is This: The Great “Creative” (or Even conventionally idealistic) Goals May Never Be Attained (and They Will Not Be Attained Without A Degree Of heroic Effort, or The Commitment To Struggle and self-Sacrifice)—but The Ultimate Goal (Which Is Happiness Itself) Can Never Be Attained (or Attached To the Apparently Separate self) By Any Means Whatsoever!

   The Import Of That Reality Lesson Is This: If You Are Devoted To Great Purposeful Seeking In the conditional worlds, You Will Inevitably Fail If You Avoid Great Struggle and self-Sacrifice, and You May Not Succeed Even If Struggle and self-Sacrifice Are Fully Engaged By You. More Than This, If Your Goal Is The Ultimate (or Happiness Itself, Full and Perfect), You Will Necessarily and Inevitably Fail—Because Happiness Is Not Objectified (or Made Present As a conditional object In the conditional worlds).

   Happiness Is An Inherent (or Unconditional and Perfectly Subjective—Rather Than conditional and Objective, or Objectified) Characteristic Of Existence, Reality, or Being (Itself). Therefore, Happiness Cannot Be Found (or Attained) By conditional Seeking.

   Even If The Great Searches and The Great Goals Are (Basically) Oriented Toward The Elimination Of the conditions that Apparently Cause Un-Happiness—When Those Great Searches Are Fully Engaged (and Even When Those Great Goals Are Actually Attained), Happiness Itself (Full, True, and Not Threatened) Is Not Attained. Therefore, All The “Glorious” Adventures Of idealistic worldly heroes and All The “Romantic” Attainments Of “Creative” cultural geniuses End In Temporary Elation, Followed (Inevitably) By Disillusionment—and Then (At Best), Unless There Is No “Recovery” From Inevitable Disillusionment, There May Be A Reawakening Of The Stressful Motive To Seek and Attain Once More. (And Such Seeking and “Attaining” Will Tend To Continue—Until Disillusionment Itself Becomes Acceptance Of The Great Life-Lesson That Undermines All Seeking.)

   Conventionally heroic and “Creative” personalities Tend To Grasp Only A Portion Of The Great Lesson Of conditional Existence. They Realize a genius For Struggle and self-Sacrifice, but (Unless—By Grace, and By self-Transcendence, Even By Advancing To The Ultimate Stages Of Life—they Realize The Truth Itself) they Never Realize Happiness Itself.

   Happiness (Like Consciousness and Existence) Is Inherent (or Perfectly Subjective). Happiness Is Not Objectified (or Made an object), and It (Therefore) Cannot Be Attained By The Effort Of Seeking. Happiness (or Inherent Love-Bliss) Cannot Be Achieved objectively (or Accomplished conditionally). You Cannot Become Happy (Any More Than You Can Become Being, or Achieve Existence, or Become Consciousness, or Be Other Than Consciousness). You Can Only Be Happy (or Realize Love-Bliss Immediately, and Inherently, or Always Already, and Perfectly Subjectively). And, Likewise (or As A Corollary To This), You Cannot Become Un-Happy—Unless, In Reaction To any particular conditional circumstance or event, You Refuse To Persist In Being Happy (and, Thus, Refuse To Persist As Always Already Existing, and Most Prior, Happiness Itself).

   . . . Consciousness and Happiness Are Identical and Self-Existing.

   Clearly, Consciousness Is Not An Object. If It Were, What Would It Be An Object To?

   Consciousness Is Inherently and Perfectly Subjective. It Is That To Which (and In Which) Great Objects and lesser objects arise and pass away. To Seek Consciousness As If It Were An Object Is Absurd—A Benighted (or Un-Happy) Quest, Founded On A Fundamental Misunderstanding Of Reality. Just So With Happiness!

   Happiness Is Not An Object. If It Were, What Native (or Inherent) Quality Would It Modify or limit?

   Happiness Is Inherently and Perfectly Subjective. And Happiness Is Inherent To The Inherently Perfect Subject (or Consciousness Itself). Therefore, Happiness Is That Native (or Original) Quality (or Inherent Force Of Being) That Is Apparently Modified, Apparently Revealed, or Apparently Decreased By The Apparent Association Between Consciousness and Both Great Objects and lesser objects.

   To Seek Happiness As If It Were An Object (or To Identify It With any conditionally Manifested objects or others, or Even To Allow It To Depend Upon any conditionally Manifested objects or others) Is Absurd—An Always Already Benighted and Un-Happy Quest, Founded On A Fundamental Misunderstanding Of Happiness (or Reality) Itself.

   To Seek Happiness (Rather Than To Realize It Inherently) Is To Be Possessed By the self-Contraction and To Be Motivated By it. Because Of the self-Contraction, What Is Inherent Ceases To Be Obvious—and (As A Result) the ego-“I” Seeks Among objects and others (and Even In the body-mind itself) For What Can Only Be Found (or Realized) Inherently, In Place, In The Well Of Transcendental, Inherently Spiritual (or Love-Blissful) and Self-Evidently Divine Being. Indeed, the ego-“I” Is Always Stressfully At Effort, In The Absurd Quest For Happiness and Consciousness.

   Therefore, Listen To Me and Hear Me. Thoroughly Observe the self-Contraction. Understand Your Seeking and Your Separate and Separative self, Most Fundamentally. Grow (By Means Of My Avatarically Self-Transmitted Divine Grace, and Through Counter-egoic Heart-Response To My Avatarically Self-Transmitted Divine Grace) To Realize and Abide In No-Contraction (or The By-Me-Avatarically-Self-Revealed Native Love-Bliss-Happiness Of Conscious Being). In This Manner, Relax All Seeking For Happiness. All conditional objects (Including Your Own body-mind) Are themselves Contraction-Only. All Great Objects and all lesser objects Are Merely (and Only) Apparent Modifications Of The Inherent Love-Bliss-Radiance Of My Avatarically Self-Revealed (Transcendental, Inherently Spiritual, and Self-Evidently Divine) Being.

   — Avatar Adi Da Samraj

8. Devotees of religion refer to consciousness as being a soul that flies away either to be rewarded with eternal bliss, or to suffer harsh judgment from a god for eternity, or to reincarnate back and forth between earth and other dimensions, until all the nasty karmic debts are paid in full … presumably to the supposed god.

   I suggest it’s as possible that humans will be aware after death, as it will be possible that alligators, or bears, or snakes, or mosquitoes will be aware after death, and that if as a species, we had evolved with paws or hooves, neither science nor religion would exist.

   Much ado about nothing … William Shakespeare.

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