Mars Helicopter and Level Earth Observer

22 thoughts on “Mars Helicopter and Level Earth Observer”

1. Lovely, can you prove mars even has gravity lol, no of course you can't.
   Why did the helicopter not take off on its own?
   Why did it need to be yanked of its stand?
   Sorry captain you've proven absolutely nothing here but your love of daft stories and sophist crap lol.

2. The flerfs still don’t get it.

3. If the heli can't fly in a thin atmosphere then surely the obvious way to fake it is not to evacuate the chamber rather than pulling it up by a tether.

4. Level Earth observer. What happens when you drop out of school around 3rd grade? This.

5. Level Earth observer. What happens when you drop out of school around 3rd grade? This.

6. It’s a flight test. Not a takeoff or landing test…

7. Physics understanding is always the weakest link in flat earther’s argumentation.

8. Not a surprise that a moron that never bother to look at Mars with a telescope and believes that planets are nothing but lights in the sky have no idea of the martian gravity and why they must simulate it in a vacuum chamber (on the other side, one of the big vacuum chambers used to test space suits and capsules they insist never happened! Tons of footage from the early days of high altitude flights and space exploration are just unknown for those "deep researchers", but well…)
   And let me make a prediction: when this wonder flies on Mars and returns the data he will make a video "busting" nasa again crying CGI!

9. The flerf is an idiot as per usual, showing amazing levels of ignorance with that "pull down to simulate reduced gravity" stroke of genius.

   That said, I've seen legit criticism from physicists (IIRC Thunderf00t did a video about it. And maybe Scott Manley, too?), about NASA's choice of helicopter for the extremely thin atmosphere of Mars. Not claiming to know more about physics than NASA, but I'm highly skeptical they'll end up going with the helicopter probe; the combination of low atmospheric pressure, requiring extremely high rotor speed, causing short battery life, when batteries are already likely to be the heaviest component of the probe, just don't make sense. Also solar panel are pretty impractical on a helicopter-probe, so the batteries only get one use?!? Not worth the precious payload-space.

   I could be wrong, but I suspect the helicopter approach is just experimental, and won't make it onto the actual mission. There are other, more practical ways to achieve the same goals (traditional, wheeled rovers have proven insanely effective on Mars. RIP Oppy. Battery weight and mounting solar panels aren't a problem with wheeled probes, and sustained power isn't needed. And atmospheric testing could be done by balloons- which should be practical if helicopters are even close to being a possibility. Or even winged, solar-plane-like probes would be far more practical than a helo)

10. So the big takeaway from this is: idiots can't tell what they're looking at. Which kind of messes up the flerf's whole "trust your senses" crap.

11. If only flat earthers would run their ideas and concepts by anyone knowledgeable about reality BEFORE they published such nonsense, they wouldn't embarrass themselves quite so much. This one and the recent non-refraction of the horizon claim demonstrates a lack of any ability to keep all the variables in play for a given situation; no wonder the conclusions drawn are hilariously flawed.

12. Meow. Cats are more sensible than this debunked flat earther.

13. who's was the waving hand at 5.59 ? it wasn't creaky's by any chance was it?

14. Mr. S – thanks for the video about LEO. I do have what may seem to be a criticism, but which will hopefully be seen as positive. I have to agree just a bit with LEO, in that I too believe (actually understand) that the earth is in fact level. I can't say I can directly observe this in a complete sense, but it works fine for me in a local frame of reference. I've actually had to rely on this fact, to correctly perform household "construction" activities (mostly minor). My 4 ft construction level has been quite useful to make sure things are, well, on a level during such activities.
    In a related phenomenon, I use the underlying mechanism for level to avoid becoming level, but to remain upright (as much as I can). After all, there is a Mrs BB22 as well!
    In case you are wondering of the science behind my reality, it's quite simple. Level is scientifically defined as 90° to a plumb line (which of course is strictly local). If my senses couldn't help me adjust my vertical orientation constantly, I might just end up level on the ground.
    So, now that I've shared my reality, I hope you understand my "LE" claim, although to be honest, I feel there are certain situations I've had that could be considered observations, so I guess I'm all in for being an LEO (scientifically that is; not dogmatically like "some" folks).
    Thanks again!

15. I’ve run into this twatwaffle in the comments before. He might be one of the dumbest in the FlatEarth clown car (it’s already a low bar).

16. This is similar to what they did with the lunar landing simulator. They had lift engines set to produce a force upwards negating 5/6 of gravity, then they had a separate engine to mimic the descent engine which could be throttled to control the landing.

17. Big fan of your son Sir. I see where it comes from.

18. Hi Mr S. Thanks for taking on LEO, he really needs a good drubbing. I can almost forgive his ignorance but I don't think he's actually that stupid, I believe he's a contrarian who argues against just about everything to rail against 'them'.
    In some ways he's a low-rent Phuket Word as he blocks and deletes any comment that debates him and by that I mean anything from simple questions to complete debunking. He's a dishonest little git.

    As you know there's a wealth of material on his channel, please do some more.

19. Flat earthers: NASA can CGI wires off astronauts on a live stream video.
    Also flat earthers: NASA can't CGI a tether wire a none live video.

20. Not just wrong, he got it wrong in a manner exactly opposite.
    Common sense isn't.
    Level Earth Observer – LEO – Should be Lacking Education, Obviously.
    👋 Mrs Sensible. 😄😄😄

21. You hit the nail on he head. They fail to grasp the most basic concepts. Physics, Mathematics, Geometry. They just don't process any of these correctly.

    Of course you need a tether pulling up to simulate the lower gravity on Mars. I think most of us would understand that by the time we reached ten.

    Flat Earth really is a social club for those lacking normal intelligence and common sense.

    On a side note. Have you tried a simulator called X-plane? It allows you to build and test fly different aircraft and gives you the option to try them in on Mars with correct gravity and air density. You basically need a rocket powered glider and 400 Knots TAS to get off the ground (showing around 40 Kts IAS) Quite a challenge building a drone to fly in those conditions.

22. Has Arnold grown a hand, or was that a cameo from Thing?
    Maybe LEO should "Just tie a knot in it!"

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