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Donald Hoffman holds a Q&A session at SAND19 US, where he gets into some of the fascinating aspects of the conscious agents theory.
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That which is alive can not die. That which is not alive can never live. There is a duality in life. Entity gives life to what is not alive. Mass gives form to what has not formed. Entity is living and mass is not. Entity is pure consciousness. Mass is pure energy. Death is only perceived in the sensed reality. In the actual reality, death is the translocation of entity from the mass it inhabited, back to pure consciousness, one cell at a time. JMS
To quote myself from my own book THE TRUTH The Illumination of Conscience written in 2011 Jeffrey Michael SImoneaux " In the sensed reality there are no actual truths, only varying degrees of certainty but in the actual reality there is nothing but truth" . One day science will help us understand our actual reality and we will know THE TRUTH.
The mass of activity that is actual reality is unimaginably complex and therefore natural selection blocked out or filtered reality for us so that we could make sense of it all. Natural Selection is the engineering design protocol of the master consciousness which we are all part of. Read the Amazon Kindle book, THE TRUTH , The Illumination of Conscience by Jeffrey Michael Simoneaux if you like this you will love the E-book and it is only $1.99 Universal Consciousness has made this reality inevitable. It is from IT that everything is and we are all part of IT. IF we are indeed filtering reality with our senses, then supernatural occurrence such as UFO, GHOST, Psychic and many other may simple be a thinning of the vale or filter that blinds us to what is actually surrounding us in reality all the time. We are in the middle of chaos and some how Consciousness etches out a world….and perhaps there are many worlds, GHOSTS for example could be sensing us and screaming for a mechanism of communication as could thousands of other entities.
@ 36:00 to his point about dueling interfaces and the natural process of deception for survival – aren't there theories that we may be the byproduct of mushroom colonies. Byproduct of their enviromental manupuliation through evolution??
When I smoke a doob and look in the mirror I see a higher agent
SOLVED – in time we devolve down, in life we evolve up.
Time lines – Infinity – all information
What is the universe?
The universe consists of pure – Information – is the universe.
What is information?
One bit of information is a technology
Two bits of information create a new independent information- a new information structure
What are atoms or matter?
Structures of information or better, technologies!
One technology = one individual atom
Two technologies make a new technology
A – new structure made up of two inner technologies or structures. Itself is a technology. Independent
What is mathematics?
Information interactions – creating new information / or interactions between set technologies (From & too infinity)
What is time?
Time is Information – interacting to create a order. A sense of entropy is the ordering of the information interactions – creating new technologies and technologies sets
Time wells
I have good reasons to believe that we've already opened a portal to a more fundamental – and generalized – consciousness that I've seen called Superconsciousness. It's a little scary because many of the effects of interactions through the portal are perfectly measurable in the lab!
This man is profound. Has not art always sought to find these portals? Not illustration of "objects" but instead actual art. When art is successful, consciousness knows itself whether the looker knows it or not. It is seeing, not looking. Wonderful dialog for sure.
TERMINAL
Spoiler alert! Donald Hoffman (with the help of Kurt Gödel) reveals the unutterable Name of God at 13:00.
Sensless people have stupid reasoning
Can we use another word for consuiousness, when ever I hear someone I feel like I am in a cyclic loop of subjectivity.
Why have a jibe at Christianity but regard other beliefs with respect?
Common is that possible to interact with aliens with this consciousness of human agents, or there is need for mixed agent's
Volume too low
There can only be one infinite, if more than one then they are both finite or limited by the other’s existence.
If fundamental consciousness cant describe or quantify itself (and human consciousness are aspects within that) how can we describe it? We could start from birth and finalise a hypotheses at death and we would only simply have that experience. Our consciousness can't 'truly' know anything (at all) so how can we define a set or rules and 'data' within any form of AI as anything that is programmed by a human consciousness is biased by simple 'belief and disbelief' (and all the subjective 'story' that goes with it). AI will simply evolved based on rules that we define so therefore will not be conscious as it's awareness would only be learned from 'biased' rule sets (contaminated)
Nothing can be proved by any form or consciousness that exists within fundamental consciousness (as Katie Byron states – Have you ever eaten a banana? prove it?)
Maths and Science is a facet of fundamental consciousness (a language to define 'things') and while carrying out those definitions is a simple experience.
1+1=2 = 'true' is that 'true'? it may be correct to solve a problem however, it also contains intent (reason and purpose) so this is what we have learned as 'true' it still does not mean it is 'true' in terms of 'reality'
Conscious agents are created from math and models and created (or set into play by humans) this is created for a purpose (with what intent?) it is simple experience.
Humans will not be able to create anything that is 'truly' 'self aware' and 'truly' conscious as it would still simply be a facet of our own conscious at play within those models and it's learning.
If any god existed it would be part of fundamental consciousness (no evidence again here either way math or physical) and as we are fundamental consciousness ourselves (each and everyone of us a part of) 'nothing' and 'no one' is above or below us (unless we use 'belief' or 'disbelief' for the purpose of that illusion as beliefs/disbeliefs are all subjective and hence illusory).
Am i the only one who thinks this guy is full of shit. Someday we will have precise mathematics that will prove he is
Love it!!!
@17:00
His "conscious agents" are something completely abstract and arbitrary. His mathematics work in a few select examples but good luck trying to create a mars rocket with his agents. I like him but after listening to him for years he is just getting nowhere
40:00 Maybe consciousness evolved to give skills, such as determining where an animal went, without seeing its tracks (which does occur in modern day hunter gatherers on the hunt for prey in Africa – see 4:08 in https://youtu.be/826HMLoiE_o ).
Interesting.
Absolutely intelligent. He’s a Genius. Incredibly fascinating🌅🌅a sunshine for you and a sunshine for me because you’re SO smart💓🥰
GOD!!!
Science is a method 😊. I choose to love this method. 😌 Question the fundamental assumptions.
18:24 “it does mean that there are agents above us”
22:44 “the mystics have been ahead of us for millennia…and we have to catch up”
“No reason why we can’t reverse engineer our interface and open new portals”
Higher Power (God) says "Where two or more are gathered (in purpose) there am I in their midst." People make it so complex!
Endless consciousness is within God's Wisdom of eternity.
I think he's the closest to realizing the nature of reality compared to most quantum physics guys who keep breaking their heads about quarks, entangled particles, dark matter, etc.
I've said time and again we are God's AI experiment gone wrong. We are just an iteration of carbon. We have created AI, which will likely create it's own version of AI and down the levels of inception we go. This begs the question, "Is God the AI of another God and is that God the AI of another God?" Perhaps it is all AI of a long extinct alien civilization. Who knows? Just questions that won't be solved in my lifetime.
Conciousness doesn't evolve, it uses time to have a perspective of the universe around it. You are traveling at the speed of light, but the physical mass in the universe slows your perception down to give life a chance to evolve. Example: the Olympic world record for the 40 yard dash, will always be beaten by at least 1/100th of a second as we evolve thru time, meaning we will Eventually be crunching the world record time down to no time at all, which is the speed of light. we will be a global consciousness, then a galactic, ultimately a universal.
Donal Hoffman approaches science from a metaphysical standpoint….. but doesn't realise it.
Oh dear me…! What would happen to the luciferian controllers of terrestrial planet earth if all homosapiens REALLY understood who God is and the REAL definition of God?
Very thought provoking. Is it possible that consciousness evolved from an initial 2 bit agent into the more complex structures? And if there was a beginning is there an end? Just wondering about the agent that induces the possibility of infinite complexities. What I'm trying to say is what is the nature of the fundamental principle that propels evolution into complexity, i.e Terrence Mckenna's novelty, or Tom Campbell's lowering of entropy through increased organization? Could the answer lie in mathematics? Could the logic of quantity be the underlying principle behind consciousness and manifestation?
As a simple thought experiment: Perhaps consciousness and matter are mutually necessary. If you have a universe of just matter and no one to experience it, that is pretty meaningless. Similarly, consciousness needs something or some things to perceive in order to be an experience.
There's another important distinction. The flower that deceives the bee is across species. Out problem is deception within species.
This is impressive. All that I can contribute is that we do not have conscious, we are in consciousness. Narure have shape and shape is defined by consciousness. Furthermore, maths only define technology. Technology is the base of intelligence, not maths.
They are figuring it out
This is a very unscientific blend of speculation and wishful thinking
If there are infinite "gods", there is no need, indeed no room, for a "Supreme God". We should probably become comfortable with this notion.
silicone? like the kind in the new vaxz? silicone? like the kind ultron was saying he was gonna eradicate humans with? Cool…
Jesus is the truth man YES we are in a fucking simulation obviously, were fucking meat suits bruh…christ died got us DIE OR HIM BEFORE ITS TO LAY, SHALAM.
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of course we can see higher powers. Thus, it's a matter of increasing perception/cognition i.e., consciousness evolution
As an analogy, consciousness expansion goes like:
1-I don't know anything about Saturn, or actually I pretend not knowing about it
2-I realize Saturn exists from a friend.
3-I start reading about Saturn and I realize it's far far away.
4-As I read more about it, watch movies, telescope images, etc. I see that I'm getting closer to Saturn, despite that the distance has not changed. I feel it closer
5-Elon Musk takes me to Saturn and I live there in Saturn. My experience of Saturn increases more and more, until
6-I realize I'm not only saturn but everything: the observer becomes the observed, space disappears.
7-Knowing turns into being. Yet, as knowledge is dynamic, ever expanding, being never ends
"the consciousness of others" are not independent from the observer; if wholeness were real, it means that the observer is the observed, even if the observer shut down all physical senses. The physical senses correspond to the "visible" frequency band within the infinite perception spectrum. If Consciousness is a field of perception, then Consciousness expansion means to expand the "visible" frequency band