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Here’s a TED first: an animated Socratic dialog! In a time when irrationality seems to rule both politics and culture, has reasoned thinking finally lost its power? Watch as psychologist Steven Pinker is gradually, brilliantly persuaded by philosopher Rebecca Newberger Goldstein that reason is actually the key driver of human moral progress, even if its effect sometimes takes generations to unfold. The dialog was recorded live at TED, and animated, in incredible, often hilarious, detail by Cognitive.
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Excellent stuff.
Was this debate scripted?
14:46 "I have become convinced that reason is the better angel that deserves the greatest credit for the moral progress our species has enjoyed and that holds out the greatest hope for continuing moral progress in the future".
…has anyone read his book, The Better Angels of Our Nature: A History of Violence and Humanity? Is this the central premise that runs throughout?
You don't have to detect a flaw in the argument or use reason to defeat it. You just need enough people disengaging their higher faculties, going tribal, and tearing down pointy-headed intellectuals. I dare anyone to point out a contradiction in the thoughts of someone engaged in tribal thinking. Unless you approach it very carefully, and are part of some group of theirs, you will be met with a fight-or-flight response (usually fight), labeled a smart-Alec at best or enemy at worst. The more obvious the contradiction (or obviously wrong the assertion) the stronger the reaction will be.
The more intellectuals become their own tribe, filled with self-congratulatory things like this, the more susceptible they will be to "othering" by the average person.
2:31 After all, Hume* as in David Hume… not (you).
When Morals (law) reflects itself into Ethics (habit) of people, that is what has been happening throughout the course o Human History. It is not very clear, but Reason indeed has a fundamental importance in the progressive development (or transformation) of this relationship; Morals to Ethics and vice-versa.
no me gusto, esta pero que el video del marcinito hablando >:v e hicieron verlo como 5 veces
I've shared this video with people I care a lot, that have tried to pull me towards religion with the vague argument that religion is required for values and morals (being a truly good person). These are good people, but they have these concepts all tangled up.
What does she mean by saying "scientific" creationism?
"What about religious faith in general?" BAAM.
Remek
That was magnificent!
I keep coming back to this one time and time again. I can't understand how something that so effectively encapsulates some of our collective best thoughts on strident moral issues could have so few views.
I can't watch a Ted Talks video anymore unless it's on YouTube. They are too deceptive. How can a company that promotes "ideas worth sharing" when they don't even have a comments section and have in the past disabled comments on their YouTube videos? Exposing this video to a comment section reveals many of the flaws in it's argument.
Great talk, aside from the freakish artistic depictions of Pinker and Goldstein, lol.
13:52 "Are there practices that we engage in where the arguments against them are there for all to see, but nonetheless we persist in them"
Yeah, we still unnecessarily kill animals for food even though we're all perfectly capable of having healthy vegan diets.
This video is so distracting. The "cartoon" does not enhance the message.
I think our grand children will be most surprised by that, current humans made this kind of video, yet did same thing just like ones we talked about. "Why didn't they use their understandings? They learned nothing from history!"
Am i watching director's cut of waking life :p
5:25 "I'm all for empathy, I mean who isn't, but -" kettle laughs
PAUL BLOOM
7:41
Goldstein's fundamental precepts of reason do not apply to Jihadists who believe "their own well being" is best served by crashing a plane into a building, or suicide bombing a hospital, so that "comfort rather than pain" will come as reward in an afterlife, for the martyrdom of their "body not intact." Reason does not apply.
"I think we still harbor instincts that can erupt in violence, like Greed, Tribalism, Revenge, Dominance, Sadism." Hey, Trump's mantra!
Progress… Towards what standard and according to whom?
The idea that reasoning can provide us with boundless knowledge, is the greatest delusion that mankind suffers.
Intense and fun, unti rebeca says 14:40…
More TED pseudo intellectualism, cannot work out if this conversation is more than an echo chamber, feedback loop, a reaffirmation of their own dogmatism or an excellent example of the Dunning–Kruger effect, ironic when considering their careers and subject matter. PS their supposed moral societal progress finished 15 or so years ago and has been replaced by nihilism and sophistry.
She needs to write REASON FOR DUMMIES