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The Evangelical Movement and its complicated relationship with politics and reality



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Journalist Jon Ward joins Morning Joe to discuss his new book, ‘Testimony: Inside the Evangelical Movement that Failed a Generation,’ offering an insider’s perspective on the rise of the Christian Right. Ward shares his perspective on the vulnerability of the evangelical community to manipulation due to being isolated in their church bubble, as well as the politicalization of modern Christianity and the impact it has had on the community.  

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32 thoughts on “The Evangelical Movement and its complicated relationship with politics and reality
  1. I love listening to Joe's take on things like this. A guy who grew up in southern culture and evangelical culture but, also has his feet firmly planted in the real world and can educate those of us who never grew up in either but, want to understand why or how come.

  2. Evangelicals are a twisted bunch. They rally for an egotistical, self-aggrandizing, narcissistic adolescent, who speaks only of himself. And then on Sunday, they worship a man whose very greatness is predicated on qualities that are the complete opposite of that. I feel sorry for them. They supplant the divine by the perverse, and then justify it.

  3. Trump said he is a star and that’s why it’s natural that he can touch women. Remember him saying „…. you can even grab them by the p…..“ Well evangelicals, what if he did it to your daughters?

  4. Joe's 100% right about the victim-hood complex in evangical Christians. It doesn't even make sense, but they all teach it by going as far as tying themselves to the so-called story of Daniel and the Lions. Christians often live in a bubble and have poor historical education, particularly of Greek and Roman events.

  5. People of faith need to embrace sophisticated thinking and open-mindedness as part of their religious obligations. Wise as serpents and harmless as doves. To do otherwise and to attempt to mould society into a form that doesn’t challenge us and cause us to grow is to expect that the “wheat” shouldn’t be surrounded by “tares”. Jesus never said societies would be that way. People of faith need to be so comfortable in their own skins (and beliefs) that they can reach out in confidence and embrace all around them in love and compassion. To force society into our belief system by coercion is not Jesus’ plan. It’s the plan of the adversary. That kind of narrow thinking is the basis for all kinds of evil, Nazism being one example.

    We need to develop and apply a deeper understanding of Jesus’ teachings so that we can live and love confidently and happily.

  6. Oh yeaaaaaaaaaa so true. I don't want to hear/see or interact with any evangelical ever. I'm glad to hear they are on the way of EXTINCTION.

  7. "Pro-life" is a made-up term by the right. What's the opposite? Anti-life? Pro-death? One can only be pro-choice or anti-choice. That's it. Full stop.

  8. "Original sin" is a terrible idea. It doesn't come from the Bible. Jews, who also use the Old Testament, don't believe in original sin. The idea comes from a combination of Paul's and Plato's ideas.

  9. Joe, thank you for your profession of faith. The Evangelical community since the 1980’s with tele-evangelists hurt sharing the gospel message with their political pollution.

  10. History teaches us that when government gets into bed with organized religion, bad things tend to happen…things like the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, European colonialism, the Salem witch trials, the Holocaust, etc, etc.

  11. Most of today's christian churches worship the jesus of this world and not the Jesus who created the world and everything in it.

  12. Nothing more adorable than liberals thinking Evangelicals still worship Jesus or care about his teachings. Trump is their messiah now, and the televangelists will tell you that any day of the week. His teachings are all they care about.

  13. The Evangelical stance on abortion wouldn't seem so stupid if Evangelicals could be bothered to find out what abortion is. They talk about people doing abortions on the day of birth – that's literally impossible, and also infanticide. The fact that they're obsessed with something but have no idea what it is leads the rest of us to not take them seriously. They're morons.

  14. The "greatest story ever told" come on. Every religion thinks "their" story is the greatest OR their "interpretation" of the story. Of course believers are insecure because the difference in "belief" even in the same religion challenges their blind faith and creates a "doubt" which forces them to question their belief more than they want. This "doubt" causes a hatred of facts and people the spoil the bliss of blind faith and, as God often does in the Bible, makes them want to exclude, attack, enslave, torture, or sideline these heretics in the name of their "faith".

  15. There is nothing more un-American than the evangelical Taliban. They are anti-equality, anti-free speech, anti-inclusiveness and openly hostile to the point of abusing the law to criminalise other people's free choices about how to worship, who they love, how they dress, or what can be said or taught. Now that they are more political than religious, and are imposing their beliefs on everyone else, they need to lose their tax exempt status. Any crimes traced back to hate speech spread in church should have the place bulldozed like a crack house. They are not better than the rest of us.

  16. What surprised me the most about Evangelicals was the lack of outrage towards Trump regarding Stormy Daniels and the Access Hollywood recording. This was not the same crowd that was outraged with Bill Clinton and Mónica Lewinsky. What happened? Why the sudden change? Was it really because one man is a Republican and the other one is a Democrat? Is the double standard really about politics?

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