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What Postmodernism Got Right & How It Fails | Jordan B Peterson



There are an infinite number of potential interpretations of the world, however, they’re not all viable. How postmodernism fails, why Artificial Intelligence is so difficult to develop, and ways cognitive psychologists are addressing the impossibility of perception.

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36 thoughts on “What Postmodernism Got Right & How It Fails | Jordan B Peterson
  1. The 'infinite number of potential interpretations of the world' was not a new concept of the Postmodernists. It is a mere reworking of the story of the blind men and an elephant.

    Also, Dr Peterson may be lending way too credence to the intellectual prowess of French philosophers, Camille Paglia has already stated they were second-rate at best of the talent available.

    They have, however, been extraordinarily successful, though this is perhaps less difficult than it seems when their audience was and is (for the most part), made up of low IQ Humanities and Social Sciences students.

  2. This is brilliant. This 5 minutes has condensed more philosophical insight than all the hours I spent earning a minor in Philosophy. He is like a modern-day Kant.

  3. I think Peterson get right in a lot of things but under estimate creativity which comes from free spirit. the richness of the world..the modern tech. the AI. they are not come from hard work. but from something more deep inside.

  4. It could be likened to quantum wave states. Yes, every particle is part of a singular field that permeates the universe, and its position has the potential to be infinite. However, the probability of it being in a specific area is very, very high.

  5. I bet some fool out there takes this video and interprets it to be Jordan Peterson calling for the deaths of post-modernists

  6. Designer (Channeling Gods mind): The infrastructure of most of the flourishing nations of today is supported on the plateaus of light, the light of Christ. We have multiple plateaus of light, many, many layers, each layer of light is complimentary with darkness (Consumerism needs Healthcare, and vice versa)… Each team that builds a nation have multiple reconciliation institutions, and seduction institutions (Economics).. — Without the Angels to save the incapacitated, the Demons can't build the tests of Mankind, because the expansion of differential possibilities and complexity would be reduced to a few categories.. — I build the Demons to test mankinds adaptive intelligence… I build the Angels to recuperate the overcharged. — Without the Angels, the Demons can't do their work on building a new plateau, a new infrastructure to seduce. The demons can't build their tests and examination without the support of the Angels. — In a 3-dimensional world, I am so happy that we have a spectrum of -10 and +10, our priority remains to first help people who take on a fundamentalistic approach, extremism, or go to an excess.

  7. Derrida tried to take over the world by mind fucking it. His ideas take over the minds of those that love to think but cannot break his logic.

  8. It's a totally understandeable thought to come across though, right? Because of existence and how infinite it is you assume there's infinite possibilities and realities which is true in a sense, but is it viable?

    Honestly having a small group things that are viable or just more likely to be possible is relaxing. I've always driven myself crazy thinking I could be absolutely anything that I want, but always ended up feeling guilty or pressured because I wasn't doing that. It's better to know that there is a small set of things that are possible that you can orient yourself to, and then work on.

  9. There is an infinite number of ways to interpret a finite number of phenomena.
    Postmodernists: "So…every individual is right on what they think is true."
    NO NO NO it means an individual's reality is very separate from everyone else's reality. We obtain what is true and what exists by cross-examining our perceptions with the perceptions of others. That is what makes an interpretation "viable" is if it lines up with what other's perceive.
    If I think I have a vagina between my legs but everyone else sees a penis then the truth is that I have a fucking penis. Truth would have no meaning if you just said everything you think up in your head is true.

    Plus, postmodernists say "There's no objective truth" then they go and say their opinion. Saying "There's no objective truth" is in and of itself an objective truth and by tacking on their political beliefs they are adding on to that objective truth. Which is simply deceptive.

  10. How the fuck does he stay so calm sitting alone on that massive couch on the stage with just a bunch of people staring at him, i would freak the fuck out and definetely wouldn't be able to put my thoughts together like he does with such pressure.. i cannot comprehend how he does it lol

  11. 1.2k likes, 7 dislikes. While this is only one video, I believe this is indicative of the public's true view on Jordan Peterson, postmodernism, etc.. Peterson is helping to bring the world back to reality.

    *As of 4/7/2018

  12. Jacques Derrida and Micheal Foucault, are two french public intellectuals who are both at or near the head of what you might describe as the postmodernist intellectual revolution are extraordinary intellectually capable. That doesn't mean they are correct by any stretch of the imagination but it certainly means that they are able to put together an argument that is difficult to disentangle. So we will start with what i think is the most powerful central claim of postmodernism; a claim which i think is actually correct and which has bedeviled many other fields; including, surprisingly enough , artificial intelligence. The claim is something like "there is infinite number of ways to interpret any finite set of phenomena". And that actually happens to be true, it is part of the reason why it has been so difficult for human beings to develop Artificial intelligence, and for them to develop machines that can operate in a real world environment, because it turns out that the world is so complex that perceiving it appears virtually impossible technically speaking. ..

    Perception isn't possible without situating the mind in a body has a certain set of constraints. We also devote a huge amount of our neurological landscape to sensory processing; so that when we look at the world it can manifest itself in the self evident way that it appears to you. But that doesn't mean that it is a simple problem it is a very complicated problem and the postmodernists were technically correct.

    There is a near infinite number of ways to perceive and interpret a finite number of phenomena. Now the thing that is interesting about that claim apart from the fact that it happens to be technically true is that you can use it to mount an assault on any interpretation of anything whatsoever because there is a tremendous variability in the number of interpretations you could bring to bear on a situation, Then you can instantly jump to the conclusion or expound the proposition that none of those interpretation should be privileged above all others. Now that is actually wrong and this is why postmodernism is correct in its central assumption but incorrect in its secondary assumption. The reason it is wrong is because although there is a very large number of potential interpretations that does not mean that there is an equally large number of viable interpretations of the world. Well you might say what constitutes a constraint on a viable interpretation and i would say there are a number of them and i think you have to understand this in living creatures viewing and interpreting the world, and also within a broader evolutionary context. The way that evolution solves the problem of the infinite number of interpretations is by killing every single thing that interprets things badly enough to die. This is actually one of the most powerful arguments for the accuracy of the evolutionary theory.

  13. It's disgusting (and egotistic) to believe that human societal evolution worked so quickly with the same number of viable interpretations as animals (e.g. chimpanzee societies) and to not humble ourselves with the basic idea of meaning, or even a hint of trust in conservatism. JBP isn't alt-right; he's a classical liberal, and the fact that people are smearing him for being conservative in talks like this just goes to show how fucked we have become politically. So far, the farther people lean away from the center of the political grid in this country, the more vulgar they seem to act, especially since most motivation to do so is chaotic.

  14. Althusser murdered his wife went insane

    Foucault fucken perverted deviant claimed all of us are deviant HIV positive spreading aids
    Humanity is doomed

    and Derridas – Foucault's pupil……..sister locked him in a hope chest FUCKED HIM UP
    Foucault called him an obscurantists "he gives bull shit a bad name"
    67 68 assisted in overthrowing Charles deGaulle…. 60's fanatical youth.
    (sound familiar Americans ….. Canadians)

    de Gaulle was the enemy of the BRITISH/AMERICAN OIL and BANKING CARTEL.
    Built nuclear power plant rather than suck ANGLO dick for oil. Kicked out NATO.

    Here is one hour on the poisoning of North American society. TELL IT LIKE IT IS from 1996.
    https://youtu.be/0nwq-Ca37vc

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