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Does Consciousness Lead to God? | Episode 912 | Closer To Truth



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Why does the mystery of consciousness lead some to the existence of God and others to only the brain? I’d like to believe in God. Can consciousness help me? Featuring interviews with Keith Ward, Susan Blackmore, Varadaraja Raman, Paul Davies, and John Leslie.

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  1. Truth (love) created good (god). And god (good) creates joy, beauty and harmony (heaven).

    Ignorance (absence of love, good and god) does the exact opposite. A vampire called greed transforms heaven into misery, ugliness and conflict (hell) because greed is ignorant (dead).

    Currently, the evangelical vampires (greed) are hiding behind the robe of truth (love) to worship ignorance (hate).

    The truth said with the wrong intent is worse than all that lies invent.

  2. "Conscious" is a word. Like "love". A way of saying 'the interface between self and society that permits the self to both construct then navigate within an extraordinarily complex society and… permits that society to condition the self. ' I do not resent being conscious – I'm grateful for it. Grateful for my wonderful wife, for my beautiful daughter. They are gifts. And so I do what I must do to honour them.
    If one is looking for an immaterial explanation of conscious being, one need only look at the existential nature of metaphor to find a really good answer. Metaphors exist but they are not made of matter. Thoughts are not the things they are about. Thoughts are metaphors of those things. All thoughts are metaphors thus the mind, which is nothing but thoughts, is nothing but metaphors. One of those metaphors is the self. Society enters the self via the senses and is entered by the self when self operates the muscles. It's not the matter in the brain that is conscious. It's just that neurons are perfectly evolved for encoding, maintaining and processing metaphors. The senses convert impinging environmental energies into coded representations, metaphors, which are conducted via neurons into the brain where they find themselves jostled and buffeted by whole communities of metaphors all interacting in myriad extraordinarily complex ways. When the arriving sense metaphor eventually modulates the self metaphor, if it modulates the self in a particular way(s) then I say the self metaphor is conscious, conscious of the world as translated and communicated by the senses!

  3. Consciousness is when space and body meet at their highest peak, better known as the human awakening state. the problem of god will remain a mystery.

  4. What if you had a dream, and what if in that dream you found this beautiful flower, and what if when you woke up that flower was next to you on your pillow…
    What if it's not all about us.
    Peace I share with you.

  5. She is an hysterical woman on the left all about agenda and feelings truth has no place in her wanting an end to patriarchy and religion because of that.

  6. My Personal Conclusions about who we are all from many sources "We Are All One Consciousness" for the following reasons:

    1. In this world everything must have a cause, so that something exists because of something else, as well as ourselves.

    2. It will be very saturating / boring if we have only one physical form in this world.

    3. It will be very saturating / boring if all human beings have the exact same physical form behavior.

    4. Try to imagine emptying all the physical things around us only the remnants of humanity, then eliminating all human beings leaving only their memories, then removing all their memories leaving only their consciousness, then connecting that consciousness, feel who we are ??.

    5. Body, mind, feelings, emotions and everything in this world is always changing, so what never changes ??, that is our true self, which is true consciousness. If everything changes2 / moves who observes, there must be something fixed to be able to observe.

    6. All human beings communicate with each other is the beginning of the beginning / the future of human beings unite, only electronic devices today can unite all human beings, one day the device is implanted in the human mind and eventually man will open all access to his mind.

    7. Our body is a group / accumulation of memory accumulated brought from the beginning of the birth of the first human in the world through continuous DNA binding.

    8. Twins are born at the same time, what if all human beings are born at the same time ??. What happens if the birth of all human beings is not influenced by the dimensions of space and time ??

    9. The twins are identical to A and B, if the whole memory of A is copied to B, what is the difference ??

    10. The law of attraction (law of attraction) that our minds will attract whatever we think, because we are all like one part of the body.

    11. Like some of the video recordings of ourselves there is a video as a vocalist, a video as a violinist, as a pianist, as a drummer, etc. The video2 is made into one in one video then it will produce a more interesting orchestra, something new and more productive. our world.

    12. Man's greatest enemy is himself, at this time man is fighting against himself. By believing that we are all one, then the ego will fade because there is no difference between us.

    13. That is why the teachings of religion command us to be grateful and beneficial to many, If you are hurting others you are actually hurting yourself, just as if you are doing good to others you are actually doing good to yourself.

    14. Could it be that we are all dreaming and our dreams meet each other at the same frequency in parallel. Have you ever, when sleeping dreamed of moving roles as someone else, it is because we are all one.

    15. We are not immortal as human beings so that we have time for us to scroll through all of life.

    16. "We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having a human experience" ~ Stephen Covey, Have you ever felt that our age is too short, could our consciousness be immortal ?.

    17. We are one, only the role is different, the memory block between life is what makes people feel different / separate. Just by brainwashing / erasing his memory then someone will be a different person but his consciousness actually remains the same. One consciousness experiences various perspectives of reality.

    18. The lucky thing for us is … awareness is always towards / seeking / having intentions / desires towards good / positive / happiness despite experiencing various mistakes.

    19. When we die the body and memory are destroyed, how can we remember ever being dead. Even a few years ago your real body was lost by being replaced by new cells you don't remember.

    20. Why do we have to die? ", When we are told to die, later this eternal question will be asked again and we will always be there." The world is a sustainable life".

    21. In the beginning we were one, but split through a big explosion or bigbang to become different and separate as it is now, but we are provided with a sense of love for us to be able to be reunited later.

    22. There is only us and the mirror of ourselves in this world, yet there is another world out there.

    23. We will always smile happily seeing each other as ourselves "How beautiful I am" seeing a different self.

    24. If all consciousness is told now that they are all one if the experience gained is enough, the consciousness designed from the beginning is so different that there is so much intrigue, consciousness is created differently so that when it comes together it has an incredible consciousness experience.

    25. We are indeed alone in this universe, but there are still many other universes with their own laws of nature.

    26. Have you ever felt to come to a place that has never been visited but feel familiar with that place, as if we have lived in that place sometime.

    27. The world is like a script of a story that is being written by the author, sometimes changed at the beginning, sometimes changed in the middle, sometimes changed at the end it all depends on us as writers, and every story has wisdom that can be taken as a lesson.

    28. Hair grows on its own, heart beats on its own, blood flows on its own, ideas emerge on its own, etc., are we involved ??.

    29. Imagine today there was an event that caused only you to live in this world, then who are all the people yesterday ??.

    30. "If Quantum Mechanism cannot surprise you, then you do not yet understand Quantum Physics. Everything we have considered real all this time, turns out to be unreal." ~ Niels Bohr.

    31. In the scale of quantum physics we are all connected to each other, even in double gap experiments proving that particles change when observed or in other words awareness is able to change reality, this has been repeatedly proven by Nobel laureate in Physics.

    32. Everything we experience by our senses will eventually only be an electrical impulse in the brain, is it all real ??. We are beings who realize that we are conscious.

    33. We are closer than the veins of his neck.

    He breathes some of His spirit on you.

    Knowing oneself means knowing one's God.

    Indeed, we will return to HIM. You are far I am far, you are near I am near.

    I am everywhere.

    Before the existence of this world there was no material other than Him.

    The True Spirit is only One, the Creator.

    I agree with your prejudice.

    34. Whether the Creator is only tasked with creating, is it possible that the creator does not want to try the results of his creation through another perspective.

    35. There is no reincarnation, it is possible that our consciousness is synchronized and evenly distributed at the speed of light through energy, and that is why we need sleep, that is why we are often not aware of something, ourselves are like some chess pieces played by a player, that's why if we moving at the speed of light we can penetrate the dimensions of space and time, when we die then wake up and we will regain consciousness as humans.

    36. Have we ever had a problem and suddenly someone came to provide a solution to the problem we are experiencing, as if someone was sent by the universe to help us in solving the problem, which is actually our own awareness that sends that person to us.

    37. A thousand years ago did human beings see, hear and be trapped in their hearts about current technological advances ??. If we all tend to sin (damage) then it will be the world of hell, if we all tend to do good then it will be the world of heaven.

    38. Knowledge learns objects, God who created our consciousness, it is impossible for God to be the object of knowledge.

    39. It is not possible for human creation which is only in the form of words / symbols to represent true truth.

    40. Is there a meaning of being without consciousness ?? then we are adventurers of this existence.

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    41. The life of the world is just a game and a joke, the one who wins the game of the world is the one who finds his true self.

    42. When the existence of the world ends we will know everything.

    43. My consciousness undergoes a very extraordinary life experience, feeling life experience with different forms and different places even though in fact my consciousness is always the same, wow .. I was surprised !! how wide I am.

    44. Consciousness in fact does not know the concept of time, consciousness can experience / undergo into another physical form because the dimension of time can be penetrated by consciousness, as when we imagine we can act as anyone without time bound, because in this universe time can in fact materialize free, time can move straight, curved, rotate, etc. Our time travel is when our consciousness moves to a new physical experience.

    45. We are an awareness, a concept that is able to answer various things.

    46. ​​Remember when you were going to leave, you were worried about losing me ??, calm down .. I was everywhere and we would always be able to meet again, believe me.

    47. Without searching what is the difference between us in this world and us in a dream while sleeping just passing by without meaning.

    48. In conclusion, whatever role we play, it is all our own design, so just enjoy.

    49. I never said that self is God, I thought that self is one consciousness, God should be higher and perfect than consciousness.

    50. God created us to be Happy, so do not disappoint God. Understand it and be Shining.

    inspired of :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtT8pWIYL4Q

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6fcK_fRYaI

  7. You'd need to prove that a god existed first and then you would need to prove that consciousness leads to it. You can't prove the existence of your invisible friend. So you're dead in the water.

  8. love to see this episode to confirm this is not the answer to this question hahaha just compared to people that really focuses on studying real science and not on spiritual or religious bullshit gives us a clear perspective of how wrong religious people are

  9. Quran 41:53 We will soon show them Our signs in the Universe and in their own souls, until it will become quite clear to them that it is the truth. Is it not sufficient as regards your Lord that He is a witness over all things?

  10. In these conversations, you very dubiously base the questions and answers on one living form, humans. Q&A regarding life and individuality cannot be defined by just one species, its properties, and its conditions. If your reasonings and assumptions lead you to only consider humans then you know they are incorrect. The correct Q&A must work for every possible living form that can emerge anywhere in this universe. On earth, start with a single living cell. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JHFDLSC

  11. Here is Consciousness Lead to God
    Following Rene Descartes meditation
    Category 1: Minds

    I exist and I am a mind. Therefore Minds exist.

    Category 2: Matter

    I have feelings. These feelings originate from sensors in what I call my body. The sensors are receptive to stimulation from events created from within my body and from events created from outside my body. The stuff that bring about these events I shall categorise as matter. Thus my body is also made of matter. Therefore Matter exists.

    Category 3: Space

    My body needs space and matter in general needs space. Matter can exist only in space. Therefore space must exist.

    Category 4: Time

    My body needs time to change and matter in general needs time for change. Matter can change only in time. Therefore time must exist.

    From the above observation I conclude that these 4 categories permeate each other and exist equally with none more abstract or less abstract than another.

    Now to the question of the origin of these categories

    Could it be that any one or more of these categories can be made from any one or more of the remaining categories? Could these categories transform from one to another?

    Matter needs space and time for its existence, therefore without space and time matter will not exist as such matter could not have been the origin of space and time.

    From physics it has been observed that space and time can give rise to matter spontaneously. As such matter maybe a result of a localised change to space and time.

    So then could space and time be the origin of everything else?

    Again from the theory of the Big Bang all space, time and matter originated from this singular event. Therefore space and time could not alone have brought about the other categories.

    Since the big bang was an event, could it be that all things are made from events?

    Where there is space, time and matter there is always an event.

    There can be no space , time or matter without events.

    In an instant all of space and the matter is nothing more or nothing less than a set of events. So then space, time and matter is one and the same as a set of simultaneous events from one instant to the next.

    From this observation the 4 categories can be reduced to 2 categories

    Category 1 : Minds

    Category 2 : Events

    Now then can minds exist without events. We know that simultaneous events give rise to feeling in minds. We know from special relativity simultaneous events cannot give rise to anything physical or material. Therefore feelings cannot be physical or material. Now as feelings are a part of minds we must conclude minds are not physical.

    Now can the mind exist without feelings OR does feelings create the mind, that is one and the same as the mind?

    If feeling create the mind then as feelings are created by events then space, time and matter which we have concluded is the same as events, must also have feeling and thus be one and the same as a mind.

    Thus we would need to conclude a rock has a mind or is part of a mind to the same extent that my brain is a mind or is part of a mind.

    This conclusion is not palatable as such let’s consider the OTHER alternative

    Now if a mind can exist without feeling then we also know that the mind can create events. (e.g throw a rock, move a finger)

    So then given that the mind can create events then the big bang (The Event) could have originated from The Mind in order to evoke feelings in other minds.

    These other minds may have also been created by The Mind.

  12. Consciousness is nothing but higher self that transcends the animal instincts of man. Man will be accountable for his action due to the presence of consciousness.

  13. Mr. Kuhn,
    I recently subscribed to your channel and watched quite a few of your videos. I also have been fascinated by the concept of consciousness my entire life. There's only one thing I know as fact and that is I exist, I AM. This is the only life I can recall ever experiencing. I became self aware about 4 yrs of age. Instantly I had awaken to a first person identity it was like in the blink of an eye I was conscious of myself, before that moment although I still internally and carnally functioned through an instinctual biometaphysical state, I was running around playing and didn't really think twice about what had just happened. From that moment on even as a young child I always wondered where I came from and why me out of countless souls did I exist. I'm still unsure if everyone has the gift of experiencing self consciousness that comes with the human experience or is self consciousness selective only occurring when spiritual maturity has reached its highest level for an earth life experience? My very early days of childhood I knew GOD and communicated with HIM. My relationship with what I call GOD was never debatable. If consciousness is a special and unique inheritance then you and I for example being self conscious can grasp the identity of GOD Consciousness that being aware of our own personal exsistance is proof of GOD as conscious beings. We can see proof of GODS creation outwardly and being conscious is our own declaration inwardly. This cannot be scientifically proven as a world wide phenomenon but only to the individual conscious observer. Before anything and everything there was only the thought of GOD. it had to be thought before created or put into being. GOD experiences HIMSELF through all HIS creations. The Absolute Infinite Intelligent Conciousness. I've always believed consciousness is a sacred inheritance, even if everyone is consciously aware it always fascinates me why people aren't really fascinated by such, sometimes that leads me to think "are they really conscious of their exsistance"? or are they conscious on a more carnal animalistic instinctual awareness only fed by Material desires, the 5 senses, feeding ego and physical survival mode. The more we grow spiritually the less our ego's control us. Maybe that in itself is a required component in attaining self aware consciousness and is a gift for achievement. Advancing to higher realms of existance. I don't know where I came from but now that I know I AM I'll always be conscious is what I believe. Our own personal journeys through the Mind of GOD.

  14. Each of our individual consciousnesses are so fractured. We don’t even know what it’s like to have a “fully functioning” or unbroken awareness. There are rare cases of people having perfect memory recall though (like that actress from Taxi), but that doesn’t mean their conscious awareness isn’t fractured in other ways

  15. Consciousness has survival value. The smallest bug runs from the swatter it is consciousness of.
    It is the memory of sensory experiences. If I burn my hand I remember not to touch that hot pot again.

  16. Please read this book… SAPIENS: A BRIEF HISTORY OF HUMANKIND

    by Yuval Noah Harari
    4.42 · Rating details · 475,208 ratings · 32,591 reviews

    100,000 years ago, at least six human species inhabited the earth. Today there is just one. Us. Homo sapiens.

    How did our species succeed in the battle for dominance? Why did our foraging ancestors come together to create cities and kingdoms? How did we come to believe in gods, nations and human rights; to trust money, books and laws; and to be enslaved by bureaucracy, timetables and consumerism? And what will our world be like in the millennia to come?

    In Sapiens, Dr Yuval Noah Harari spans the whole of human history, from the very first humans to walk the earth to the radical – and sometimes devastating – breakthroughs of the Cognitive, Agricultural and Scientific Revolutions. Drawing on insights from biology, anthropology, paleontology and economics, he explores how the currents of history have shaped our human societies, the animals and plants around us, and even our personalities. Have we become happier as history has unfolded? Can we ever free our behaviour from the heritage of our ancestors? And what, if anything, can we do to influence the course of the centuries to come?

    Bold, wide-ranging and provocative, Sapiens challenges everything we thought we knew about being human: our thoughts, our actions, our power … and our future.

  17. Consciousness is due to network of neurones in the brain just like circuits in TV or radios. When these circuits are accurate we are conscious of surrounding because our senses or our brain energy connects with energy surrounding every where. When these circuits are disturbed the conscious level is disturbed and with extreme disturbance we become unconscious. The same way when circuits in TV or radio are disturbed they don't give sound or picture. If disturbance is too much these devices become dead. This a simplified way to explain consciousness. Relation to God can also be explained. Go is not a human being or any creature we can imagine but it is either collective energy present every where or it is behind that energy in some form which at this stage we don't know. All that energy around us or in universe according to string theory is in fact appear as matter as well as energy alternatively. So all he matter which we see is in fact energy in different form. God has left he universe to run by that energy which may be dark energy in a systematic way. Every hing in universe is interconnected. Every thing in universe has part of ha energy and when some one is conscious he can utilise his energy to mobilise surrounding energy in his favour that is called force of mind or Yogga or in islam prayers. This is all matter of focusing your energy to mobilise surrounding energy which normally may be in you favour or some time against. That is why some time things happen to harm you and some time in your favour but if you focus your energy or consciousness you can mobilise those forces in your favour to the extent you do effort.

  18. Dec 2017….2 weeks before my dad died….he dreamed he died…and was aware…he had died. He said he wasn't scared….just that he was aware. So explain that!…

  19. Please, dear psychologist Ms. Sue, consciousness is no more a mystery as you think. There is a lot of things we don't know, it is true, but consciousness is no more a mystery. Please!

    Every single moment the heart pumps the blood to the brain, the mind concocts consciousness which harbors the will and makes a representation of the world to the individual. In the will we have desire governed by reason. In the representation we have memories.

    Consciousness is a function of the frequency of the fields over the heart, the cardiac output, and the entropy. Any individual who lacks one of these three things will lose consciousness. When your heart enters into fibrillation, you have a cardiac arrest and you lose consciousness and die. If the volume of the blood decrease, you faint and if the entropy steps out of its limits, you lose consciousness (sleep).

    Consciousness is fundamental. And we have three levels of consciousness available. The higher consciousness, what we call God emanates from the immaterial realm and permeates and pervades everything in the material realm. In humans, the higher consciousness is manifested as medium consciousness. Everything below humans is lower consciousness.

    And consciousness is as discrete and continuous as light is particles and waves. It comes to us discrete but expresses itself continuously.

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