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Don Page – Physics of Consciousness



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How to explain our inner awareness that is at once most common and most mysterious? Traditional explanations focus at the level of neuron and neuronal circuits in the brain. But little real progress has motivated some to look much deeper, into the laws of physics — information theory, quantum mechanics, even postulating new laws of physics.

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15 thoughts on “Don Page – Physics of Consciousness
  1. I really enjoy listening to Don Page. He's not just tackling difficult philosophical definitions, he's a world-class physicist that studied under Hawking who's also tackling difficult philosophical questions.

  2. They’re talking about a sentiment being, being the quantum conscious observer, meaning that there is a conscious human being somewhere out there observing the universe in its entirety and in such a state that it’s unfathomable to the human mind.

  3. Humans have never been able to accept that we are a random product of nature and evolution. History shows that humans have always wanted to be special, to be the "center of the universe" and the "apple of God's eye" (pardon the pun). Now that science has knocked out egos down a notch or two, we sill want to salvage some sense of being special. Since "consciousness" remains to be described by science or anything else, some humans turn to a "God of the gaps" argument. "Consciousness is so mysterious and beyond the brain, that God or some sort of 'universal consciousness' must be the answer. No, the empirical evidence indicates the strong likelihood that human consciousness arises from the brain. How it arises has yet to be described, but will be in due time.

  4. The genome, DNA itself is a storage system containing at the very first living cell all the information to build and operate the human machine including the brain. Recent estimates of the number of connections within one neuron are now approximately 100 billion and the conservative total for the entire brain is now 100,000 trillion bits/ connections. These connections are superposition within Microtubulin that assemble into Microtubule, hollow tube like structures, that are foundational building blocks of the neurons themselves. These Microtubules are found in all living cells and are essential in the process of mitoses and creation of pro generator fields ( quantum fields generation ).

  5. Isn't it obvious the conciousness has nothing to do with quantum mechanics at all? Neither with atoms. It is associated with macrosystem of neurons and synapses, where micro has completely gone from the view. Each synapse consists of vast and highly changeable amount of atoms, but its function remains the same throughout the life and consiousness is not affected. Forget the micro, only macro plays role here. I would search from this point.
    But then, I realized this particular man Don Page doesn't talk about quantum mechanics of elementary particles. He just uses quantum mechanics terminology to describe mapping taking place between macro brain states and concious states. In a very abstract way. It's similar to neural correlates of counsiosness, but from the point of view of mathematician. This is an interesting view. Besides, I didn't hear before anyone saying "operator is looking for particular state in a brain". Awesome. But we still need to identify where exactly that mapping leads. I have a sense we'll investigate the brain only to discover it's merely a processing organ. Then, our quest for consiousness will end and then it will truly begin.

  6. I think the bogus agenda of people trying to apply quantum mechanics to consciousness is to rescue the idea of libertarian free will. Can we even predict atoms from QM? We can explain them having observed them but already, at the level of chemistry, we're at a level of emergent phenomena that's incredibly difficult to derive from first principles. And, what about decoherence? As I understand it, the brain seems to be a classical system to an extremely close approximation.

  7. Quantum physics superposition:
    I exist and yet I don't exist, depending upon if I observe myself or not. But then, how could I observe myself if I don't exist? So, since I can observe myself, am I actually currently eternally existent since I could never observe myself from a state of non-existence?

    And utilizing modern science:
    Modern science claims that energy cannot be created nor destroyed. Hence, energy is eternally existent or modern science is wrong.
    Modern science claims that we have new cells that come into existence inside of our body on a daily basis. This appears to be true.

    So, since I currently have a body with energy and cells in it:
    A part of me is eternally existent and a part of me is being born anew on a daily basis. My current body extends from eternity past until now. Rising to a higher level of thought, the "now" that I currently exist in is "eternal". I am currently existing in the "eternal now". I am currently an actual eternally consciously existent entity existing in the eternal now. And hence, I can observe myself as being existent. Otherwise, if I had ever non-existed, I could have never observed myself into existence. I currently eternally exist. Like it or not, there it is.

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