HumanProgress
Full episode: https://youtu.be/vWwzwS8ovTU
Steven Pinker is a Canadian-American cognitive psychologist, linguist, and popular science author. He is Johnstone Family Professor in the Department of Psychology at Harvard University, and is known for his advocacy of evolutionary psychology and the computational theory of mind. He is the author of The Language Instinct (1994), How the Mind Works (1997), Words and Rules (2000), The Blank Slate (2002), The Stuff of Thought (2007), The Better Angels of Our Nature (2011) and Enlightenment Now (2018).
For more, visit: https://stevenpinker.com/.
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He says "we're never gonna have an utopia" and the subtitles says "we'll have a utopia"