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Jiddu Krishnamurti – Observing Fear as it Happens

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Krishnamurti’s Teachings

4th Seminar. Brockwood Park, England, 16th September 1978

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https://krishnamurti-teachings.info/transcript/observing-fear-as-it-happens.html

Q: What is the root of fear ?
When there is division, then thoughtis in operation. when there is no-observer, whois the very essence of thought wich is past, then there is only actually what is happening. Can that actuality, the fact, be observed without the movement of thought?
Can you watch the moon without thought drawing a curtain accross it?
As long as there is division there must be conflict. Is that division actual or is it artificially created by thought?
Can thought be conscious of itself as a movement?
Only when there is inattention does fear come. Does attention contain or hold thought? What is the quality of the brain when there is total attention?

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  4. There is realisation that as the imagination is taking place, fear goes along. Fear is the movement of imagination. and I used to think my fear, find cause of it. However, fear comes again, at the meanwhile, it is really unreasonable that since the imagination as what you are is fear, then who is one that is going to do something to fear?!

  6. {…the root of fear is Thought. …. Thought is the fear. THOUGHT IS FEAR !!!!! … } WOW !!!! This statement extraordinary. Only an Unconditioned Mind can make such a statement. And 99.99999999 of us humans beings are sadly and pathetically conditioned. The instant I realized this truth, my whole being relaxed, quieted down. Everything around me became silent.

  10. wonder what "K" would have to say about geo engineering!Something very evil is going on now these are truly sad days a present how long do we have?!st sun of 2018 on a warm day 15 mins and I am red/burnt not right folks!4 years from now will there be another to post?

  13. It's not their fault they don't understand. They aren't ready. When you aren't ready you just don't get it. I believe the current mental state of humanity is slowly evolving into understanding what J.Krishna is saying. Majority of us NOW do understand what he is saying Thank Goodness! The EGO is the "entity" that has created the delusion of hate, jealousy anger. Me, me , me . Oh poor me. Everyone hates me or Everyone loves me. When you are angry, sad, depressed, fearful, full of hate, in that moment observe that. Feel that emotion but the key is to not identify with it. Don't act on your anger or your hate or your jealousy. Just let the thoughts run as they are. Let it play out in your mind like a movie but YOU watch it without action. Watch it as a third person. As you are doing this you will eventually dissolve that fear, hate anger etc etc and it will NEVER return when it comes to particular situation you are thinking of that is creating that emotion. Do it. Try it. You will see.

  18. "Consciousness," like time, like "I," is just a concept, not some actual entity. Consciousness is its content. That's so lovely. It's like a cup of tea without the cup.

  19. From "Study Yourself", another K's site, policy : "Anyone advertising or promoting any website , the message will be deleted and the member will be banned . Comments are for the video on hand" . My comment : great policy, hope other sites will do the same. Please see below the account name nulife4ever, it has a very strong hidden agenda trying to convert K's platform into a cult's (Bahai, an Iranian faith) free advertisement tool. I found that out by thinking he was really trying to learn K's teachings and honored him with lengthy replies. His (assuming, being it's a male-chauvinistic faith) comments are very biased and polluted and we don't want that in our flame of pure lights. Thanks.

  21. I normally prefer the talks he does with children, because I am usually following him pretty well when these robots slow him down to a complete stop just as he starts to really get into it.

  22. "There is intrinsically no Bodhi Tree, nor a Clear Mirror as our reflection platform, since birth there was nothing existing, where could you stir up the dust? " by Huineng, sixth patriarch of Zen lineage, 638-713 AD, incarnated as an illiterate when he was awarded that title by this zen poem, almost dominated Chinese scholar thinking for the past thousand + years. Our loving K is gradually leading us into that intrinsic emptiness, that brilliance where every matters manifested, starting with thoughts. Very hard to realize, esp. for intellectuals who are full of thoughts, or to enter. Thanks for posting.

  26. He is talking about actual Presence, and these "educated" people are trying to convert that Presence into thought.  It's understandable that they should be caught up thus, but it becomes comical from the perspective of Presence.

  27. It's funny these people are totally and completely controlled by the false self the Socially reinforced ego of self importance delusion.

  28. The challenge here for K maybe, and I say this respectfully that these educated persons are blinded by their education (conditioning) … just a thought lol

  30. Whatever works. If you wish to understand this, recommend watching Shinzen's YT video titled Do Nothing. To remove the two, the observer and observed  and join, 'you' have to remove the personal construct's intentions and measure of cognition.Then peace maybe arises in selfless, choice less awareness of the actual present and residual fear if any dissipates. Fear not only sources from thought it can be sourced from alcohol, nicotine or other drugs. Fear is not necessarily a bad thing if it increases awareness in an actual dangerous situation. Think people tend to overuse though when it is not necessary,especially for things we have no real control over anyway.

  31. Acceptance.
      Do you know when i watch him and the times he breaks out in a smile, or a laugh i can not help but love him! This is it with this knowledge you don't become a saint or a supper hero you rest in the presence of what has been carved out for you.  Your Character does not have to be an angel thats not the point it is the variety that makes it fun ! I do believe your Character is your part in this life.   I adore Jesus and that would send him to the moon but i don't think Jesus is coming to save me his teaching is the saving,  Not the Body not the mind and admits with the strongest intent the body can still take hold, Just love.  Live without judgement like a flower in the garden that grows enjoys and blossoms fully fearless without comparison just Being.  
    One thing he shared in a different video that stays with me often is when your out enjoying nature for example a sunset or sunrise how you just look with openness and wonder there is just a blankness to the isness.  He says can we take that same gaze back to our fellow man.

  33. I feel that I am more fearful to ATTEND any feelings that happens within. So when i release the fear and ATTEND and there the acceptance comes. Once the acceptance happens, the emotions calm down. This is what I observed.

  35. It is in fact possible and actual to observe fear without the observer.  Of course if there is no observer then fear disappears because there is no center from which fear is observed. When there is no center there is no thought which creates division. When there is no division there is no conflict manifesting as fear because the movement of thought is not there to create division between what is actual and something which is desired to be different from what is actually happening.  When one is watching in this way, time comes to an end because there is no goal for something to be different in the future. This is the nature of conflict which is in the idea of becoming.  In this timeless state, there is boundless energy which can not be named.  It is our true nature which is not in conflict and can observe without the movement of thought. This is actually quite simple and requires no effort.  It is just looking without naming. This looking exposes the absurdity of conflict. It is obvious that one can live without conflict once one starts to look in this easy and effortless way!  What is amazing is not that we can do this but that we as human beings not seen something so obvious!!!  There never was any division. We created it because our minds our so incredibly distorted. This incredible distortion has created all the conflict and violence which is rapidly moving human beings closer and closer to extinction.

  37. What I have noticed is that women are not that interested in krishnamurti like they are into Eckhart tolle, I think is that krishnamurti was stern and he displayed similar knowledge in a more elaborate way. Personally I like krishnamurti depth.

  38. he seems caught up in his own BS with an ego to match….I am more interested in silence, that's the real deal…

  39. go
     
    It's a fallacy that krishnamurti was a philosopher… he chose to be a philosopher… he was a  mystic.. perhaps greatest of the 20th century along with ramana maharishi.. these two were the real MCcoy…. never claimed to be the godman… jiddu used logic and reasoning to defy logic and reasoning… and perhaps his speech was misconstrued philosophical because he chose to use common language bcos people were glued and addicted to fancy words  and jargons thereby missing the real meaning of the real and authentic meaning of "truth" so he used words like 'timeless' for soul and maintained that creation is the most sacred and holy thing.. he was not an atheist… you can see in his eyes and voice that he was always on a ethereal spiritual high… jiddu always addressed himself as the "speaker" because he believed and realised that he doesn't belong to any country , cast , colour or creed and any religious sect….. he hardly used the word "GOD" to avoid misunderstanding amongst spiritual seekers.. he once said " timeless is and will always be there  – even without your invitation.." or "truth is a pathless land..".. be a light unto yourself…".. he realised that the concept of 'creator gods' was deviating humans from what ideally was the "TRUTH" or "ETERNAL"… he wasn't against praying but felt that meditation is the 'choiceless awareness' and insisted that that meditator and the meditation are the same just like suffering and sufferer are the same so maintained that action without motive is the real action because it's not seeking for any results when done without motive… he realised that the real violence and frustration creeps in when an individual seeks and desires for – "what is" and " what it should be".. for jiddu that was the beauty of the action , love and compassion when done without a motive…. For example ,he said it's like  – i am in distress and want joy so there's an instant violence between 'what is' and 'what should be'..!!! and when you don't attain that  – it culminates into something even far more frustrating and distressing..!!!!
    As Ramana Maharishi said "stop hoping for anything to happen.."
    then there is Bliss , there is joy because there is no reason and you don't seek or create a reason to feel happy… jiddu contempelated and understood the whole structure of thought , reasoning , fear and relationships and in a quiet and passive way obliterated the network of thoughts that bonds and links humans , relationships which eventually breeds violence , jealousy and melancholy…. jiddu said with intrinsic authority that fear as an emotion cannot exist alone – fear is always in a relationship with something – be it your family , wife , death , wealth , socail status , sex and 'love'……. "FEAR IS AN EXTRAORDINARY JEWEL – SO DISSECT AND UNDERSTAND IT…".. "self interrogation leads to revelation.".
    he often said that can there be a fire created within that can burn away the garbage of past forever and thereby you give birth to yourself again – and then the mind is extraordinarily still – then there is bliss and joy galore…. "keep dying to your past psychologically.."… after reading jiddu – it made me realise that past is over and these stale thoughts are like left overs which would never let you grow out of yourself and your bruised and morbid ego..!!!!
    truth is said in a million different ways and jiddu chose the simplest yet the most complex of all….. if you want an absolute answer to life's complexeties , distress , sufferings , FEAR and mysteries , krishnamurti would give the answer in absolute terms that's the reason perhaps some claim jiddu to be dry , boring , atheist and life negative which wasn't true….
    When once asked what do you want us all to do..??? krishnamurti replied…"FIRSTLY – i don't wan't anything…. SECONDLY – live, live in this world – it is so marvelloussly built… but we are despairing humans.. we don't know how to live and love and be in true relationship be it with your family , wife , friends and nature…
    krishnamurti said what buddha , krishna , jesus said… "Don't mourn the past – don't anticipate troubles , don't dream about the future because they don't exist.. it's you who keeps it alive.. "It's the POWER OF NOW nad only the PRESENT is Real , Eternal , BLISS – JOY…. Only the "NOW" is real and true…All the  rest is dead and fictitious.
    Like lord Buddha's Dictum – " Put everything at stake , because you have nothing to loose , But Everthing to GAIN.
    "THE SEARCH FOR TRUTH IS AS OLD AS THE MAN HIMSELF".
    SO be The LIGHT UNTO YOUR SELF"….

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