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Ken Wilber is the founder of Integral Institute and the co-founder of Integral Life. He is an internationally acknowledged leader and the preeminent scholar of the Integral stage of human development. His many books, all of which are still in print, can be found at Amazon.com. Some of his more popular books include Integral Spirituality; No Boundary; Grace and Grit; Sex, Ecology, Spirituality; and the “everything” books: A Brief History of Everything (one of his largest selling books) and A Theory of Everything (probably the shortest introduction to his work).
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How can he say we all have an I amness free of object? Who has ever experienced such a thing? Why can't I am be the start of the ego?
At 8:40, choosing your parents. I first heard this idea from Alan Watts. Fyi
If dalai lama do not remember his past lifes….sorry about him! I do…and the last thing i wat to do is a show about it!!!!
The Thing is I can'tremember some of my past like as a teenager I know the friends but not the things i did
Waouh…
People need to touch, taste, see, hear and smell. So their flesh pursues flesh.
After this video I viewed "The toilet: an unspoken history". I think ultimately, that is more informative, funny, and thought provoking. You may not journey to another body, but you will definitely journey to the privy.
This is a brilliant talk. Much better than the usual New Age woo woo or traditional rehash of unconfirmed ideas.
That women looks like the female version of ken
If they did go public, then they'd be kidnapped and tested on. Tibetan Buddhist's are NOT desperate to prove their point. They just know. Using your skills gained through meditation for show is what prevents a seeker/yogi/meditator from achieving enlightenment. There's no use in proving it. A seeker can only validate reincarnation on his/her own experimental accord. And then they would know whether the Karmapa is legit or not. Just my opinion. I'm sure not everyone will agree.
This is a very good description of my own discovery upon waking to my snake self. I desire to Master Myself by learning how to die in my body before the body dies. Does any one know this skill that would be willing to share their experience with me?
Adoption. Lol. Sorry…changed my mind.
I am with him, but lol at the stepping between your parents while making love. How about IVF kids?
what about artaficial insemination :3
"Show us the note"
Just occured to me, watching this video, as an insight, that the exponential growth of human beings (and more generally, the diffusion, spreading, dispersion and evolution of life and more developed conscious life) might not just be a social-biological characteristic of living beings, but there would be an 'outside' ('spiritual') pushing effort for the production of life organisms, so that more and more 'of that plural universal spirit (I Am Ness) can take part (as I Am Nesses) in eventually more advanced consciousness life-forms, as if it were a purpose. Btw, this might has something to do with De Chardin idea of evolution of complexity in the Universe. I don't know if there is relation between De Chardin work and Ken Wilber yet.
Humanity must integrate S-mode theory and understand its own consciousness core and neuronal group selective process before it starts fucking with nano-organisms in his/her brains and genome altering drugs and or compounds. Earth can be a paradise or a hell its in our power to decide as human beings. Wilber is ahead of his time but already behind the latest discoveries. I invite him to contact me and will try contacting him through accepted avenues. [websites are always a start]
I would meet Wilber on any stage to discuss the consciousness implications of sexual-mode theory and the implications for transpersonal psychology , religion, and the social sciences in general as in this particular area his ignorance and or fear of admitting the lie of denial [a crime against humanity at one level] of a simple neurological biological fact [as is female orgasm for instance]. His assessment tof the centauric stage to come is Wilber at his best as well as his extrapolation and cross-studies of eastern and western thought [hemispheric not city east and west you guys]
I favor reincarnation as a theory in that I seem to have some memory of past lives and in this life have a Ph.D. in psychology. Wilber laughing at the Dali Lama is Wilber at his worst. The Dali Lama is well studied in the Naropa teachings and is too diplomatic to share his wisdom with military and other forces based on murder etc. For self awareness and true integration begin with 'improved mode lecture for youtube'. On one level all religions per say are deva-based extraphysical astral wish fulfilling. The idea of conscious rebirth is Earth based thus non-delusional. To accept a conscious rebirth at the highest level is to give up the ego and is a pure self . [in this thinkers opinion- ,] Krishnamurti dressed as he did due to MB-mode.
Does it matter to know who you were in your previous life? I know that people do past life regressions. I really do not care to know who I was in my previous lives if there was one. Look at your present life, the challenges and themes, wounds and pain, emotions and awareness, light and darkness – this present life is all what matters right now in our awareness of ourselves and God. What really interests me right now is the multidimensional aspect of this reality…
you guys should check out Bashar channeled by Darryl Anka for the understanding on reincarnation. Ill tell you here but going to watch the video will help much better. Any who. Because everything exists right now, The notion of RE-incarnation is outdated in its understanding that there is solidity in the assumption that there is past and future when they are just in fact illusory. It must be understood that if you are in fact reading this sentence on this screen, you are creating past and future in the now. So whats occurring right now is multiple simultaneous incarnations but from your point of view your physical mind will only interpret this in a linear format.
Does Wilber take steroids for health issues.
On reincarnation, the discussion appears to be based within the context of ego – of a "personality" that moves from one body life to the next as if buying a new car, getting in and driving away. Yet this is a linear intellectual interpretation from a dimensional realm that has limitation of belief. The soul does not leap from one body to another in reincarnation. Only the context of Earth dimension holds an attachment of a body by a 'personality' whether it is human or ghost. Yet the teachings of Integral is an advance of transcending to know self as "I Am" without object. Spirit and consciousness beyond the veil is also without object. This does not mean when we die we cannot still perceive ourselves as an 'entity' or personality. In fact this is a natural extension from the death moment which is centred and perpetuated by endocrine release in the pineal gland. At the most imminent dimension of consciousness beyond the veil of mortal life, spirit is still able to take structure and form that might be or remain attached to a human physicality and personality. But when spirit has evolved beyond the karmic process, attachment is no longer and there is no need to maintain a physical form or sense of identity – in which case spirit is free to transcend further dimensional consciousness – into that purity which is formless. It is from this formlessness that angel or bodisatva he speaks of can make a 'choice' of birth as a human identity – because there is no necessity to do so other than of free will for advancement of others and all. In the dimension of formless – soul can still take form at will – as that is the natural desire – to see 'self' by extending that creation of oneness to external perspective for experience. Reincarnation in the mundane that he speaks of with Shirley and HH Dalai Lama is the fantasy of the mind to recreate experiences that the essence of the evolving soul may have encountered prior. This does not mean each life is not real – it is just that the container is transferred by various lineage systems – the main being the genetic seed of potential.
so children choose their parents? so some children just choose poor, drug addict, abusive parents?
I like what Ramana maharaji had to say about life, and of course Ken wilber and Alan watts and Eckhart tolle, but also Gurdjieff, out of all of them i find Ramana maharaji to be the most beautiful.
yes, but the Karmapa who died in '81 didn't leave a note. one of his "heart-sons" forged one which he refused to let be tested for handwriting. so one of the other tulkus found another new Karmapa–there are now two. it was a total fiasco. therefore, I don't believe in it at all. I wish it were like that but the Karmapa fiasco proved it isn't.
so if i was conceived by a young immigrant woman seduced by a married man, and i was adopted thru an agency before i was born, which dad dude was i hot for? or maybe i'm just promiscuous.
and, he posits 3 children who turn out differently "but all treated the same" no, that never happens. AND, serial killers always have severe abuse as children – SEVERE.
you gotta question things on a further level. let it blow your mind away.
the bankrobber, docter, serial killer analogy is really shortsighted. You'd really lake of insight in what significance every individual expiernce + their different genoom or even place in the whoam can have.
This guy doesn't offer support for any of his claims. Why do people listen.
Ken has patience with his fans. If this lady understood the ego theory position, and she must because she's a men wilber fan, then she wouldn't ask such a silly question. Most spiritual Americans run around saying 'ego' this and ego that but they also believe that the ego reincarnates! In advaita, there is no personal reincarnation.
The sharing of the 17th Karmapa's reincarnation note is in a video entitled: His Holiness the 17th Karmapa with Tai Situ in 1992 I tried to post the link but the system did not allow it. Hope this helps.
The points you raised in response to qcon shows how utterly you lack strong philosophical grounding.You clearly don't even understand Wilber's position.He is not '*anti-causality*,my dear.You need to get out of the closed-box of Christianity,get rid of the Fear and do some open wide ranging explorations.Justwiden your domain of enquiry.Don't bury your head in the sand of unreasonable lunatic dogmas.
Understanding philosophy(Eastern) of Ken Wilber requires extreme subtlety in thinking.People here in the West who are mired in Biblical dogmas lack the kind of subtlety required to wrap their heads around Eastern concepts mostly because of their intense emotional investement which prevents them from deep,open-minded clear thinking.As far as atheist,their mental coarseness makes its nearly impossible to sink in thsese extremely sophisticated & subtle ideas.This's surely not for the feeble minded.
2.cont. And,no I am not a relativist,nor is Ken Wilber.All the points you mentioned above are far much better explained within Ken Wilber's framework(vedanta),or buddhism.As far as Kalam cosmological argument,even these materialist/atheist have something mouthful for you: /watch?v=1u9ZIQ33a8c .
1.First of all, what kind of God are you arguing for?The same old watchmaker god?The traditional loving,caring personal daddy that is keeping accounts of your sins?The Male God-the white bearded Father?You have to make clear your position.If you are arguing for the above mentioned type of God(supernatural dualism),I won't waste my time here with you,sorry.
Indeed, the singularity is the ultimate stance in "I am-ness". The infinite variety of experience is all the same stuff because it is a simulation that is not there. Logically, returning to grade school after graduating with your PhD to pick up on loose ends you missed fooling around at age 6 is the way I look at reincarnation for spiritual growth. You're outa here and on your eternal path to God.
I find Christianity to be the most coherent worldview that explains life's biggest questions: 1) what is our origin (see Kalam cosmological argument) 2) what is our morality (objective moral values and duties DO exist, relativism is wholly untenable) 3) What is the meaning to life (not here by chance, here with purpose for a staggeringly short time, to live purposefully knowing our Creator) 4) what is our destiny? (I believe that there is justice and accountability beyond this life). peace.
SO you believe you will find truth from following Jesus Christ?What does that actually mean?Following visions of CHrist in dream?Or by reading New Testament?And how is this compatible with with science and origins of human existence?
Good to see.
Wow this has been an issue I have been wondering bout and have a contemplating. But he lost be on "getting to turquoise and red stiuff. Does he mean chakras?
People are easily deceived. None of this is compatible with science and origins of human existence. While Ken appears intelligent, he's built a career on speculation. Following him is a giant crapshoot. There's no scientifically acceptable evidence that the memories of past lives claimed by some are genuine.The question comes down to whether we will find Truth in the unreliable minds and memories of fallen and fallible human beings or from following Jesus Christ, the Way the Truth and the Life.
Remembering your past lives??how can you remember that??you can have OOBE and with your intent you can go and see your past lives.how many times you were born,you can experience past lives as an observer or in body.but remembering??
maybe it's possible,i don't know,but it seems unlikely.
Interesting and careful take on this issue. Of course the Tibetans come up but maybe it's become limiting by now, to talk strictly in terms of planes and bardo (which he hints at). I have the suspicion it's all a lot more fluid than that and wonder if there's a spiritual analog to Godel's incompleteness theorem. Guess that's what meditation is for.
Do you listen to Alan often?