The Intellectual Diversity Podcast
Ken Wilber is the world’s most well-known exponent of Integral Theory. In this episode he describes his intellectual development, discusses his theory of the evolution of consciousness in the context of the artificial intelligence revolution, and outlines the argument of his recent book about Donald Trump’s America.
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Poor John … brain fried
Reptiles are real
How can anybody follow Ken Wilber and still believe somebody like Bernie Sanders should be the President? Sanders is not just MEAN Green, he’s a flaming Marxist, violently exclusive, and it goes without saying he’s absolutely
anti-Integral.
The age of trump? don't worry about trump, he's only a puppet from the establishment. It's governments that are the enemy of consciousness.
disagree re ''sexual selection– males compete, females choose''; i'd say males compete AND choose, for females; there are still hunter-raider-gatherer groups TODAY, in which men, upon losing their wives, will RAID another tribe for wives; certainly NOT a new practice (but TODAY, in 'civilized' LOL societies, ANYTHING goes)
a bewilbering intellect– so far beyond my ken
1:47:46…. "…that I introduce in a book called: mnmfmnrm" anyone know the actual name of the book?
PROFESSOR IRWIN COREY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who is in the states he speaks of. Where are they. How do they speak! How do they look! How does one measure the depth.
I needed this guy right. WOw and I didn’t even know it. I didn’t know who he was until he showed in my feed.
I’m here to speak to your father… LOL!
TY Sir for your life of sharing your brilliance!
A pleasure to hear your journey.
Having served time in Sedona AZ for 15 + years I so enjoyed the explanation of growth verses awakening reality. Plenty of examples observed. Sweet!
Wouldn't you have to be in a higher state of consciousness in order to properly understand and explain the levels under you ? Where im going with this is his consciousness level system is limited by his own personal level of consciousness
actually viewing ourselves as navigators, fully integrates both scientific and the internal stuff. Everything including religion, escoteric, can fit into this one picture. The beauty of this approach is that it's not only provides a framework or lense for all understanding but can be formalised in a way that also meshes with mathematics and abstraction.
When the student is ready the teacher appears. I am so ready to learn from Ken Wilber.
Plain and simply meditate 💖🇳🇿🙏
his magnus opus, Sex, Ecology and Spirituality is a tour de force which lays out the integral meta-theory in correlation with social and cultural evolution. highly recommend
Ken wilber is my favourite ♥️
When Ken breaks down left & right, I agree with almost everything he says. The issue I take in his definition, at least in the states, is it took the religious right (Republicans & Lincoln) to declare war on the Democrat, KKK, leftist south to end slavery. The right was the Anti-slavery party. The Dixicrats started our civil war to jeep slaves. That shows that the Dems, in ways, were in Amber more than the right.
Excellent interview – very interesting and well-thought-out points (And an excellent interviewer, allowing for the questions to be answered in full without interrupting or commenting – even when the answers are as lengthy and comprehensive as is the case here! 🙂 )
Top man. Integral Guru par excellence. I got so much from this. Thanx.
Not very awake or aware if you believe all the lies about Trump eh? He's not amazing or anything but he's better than the Left alternatives and certainly better than the left media portrays him.
https://youtu.be/5rFYrarMCQ0
FOR ALIENS 1:09:48 this is how we came to be cool and not violent okay thanks bye <3
The clearest thinking to me is the focus on Jesus Christ and why He came and what He did and who He is . This I have contemplated and found to be incredible , it has changed my life but yes my mind is quite far behind as I realize why He came to set us free . I do get glimpses of this and it’s divine to remain there . And I look at the earth I am weary at the futility at hand but the wretched cycle of waste hidden under the term affluence . What does it profit a man if he gains the world but loses his own soul ? We can see the definition of this played out in the new and in the streets and in the lifecycle of many . The works of great men can be admired but what about the finished work of one that offered you eternal life and has it to give by His power ?
Most have not truly heard the gospel of Jesus , they have seen the name and heard and seen the weak participants of such . Being weak is human but to strive for truth is divine . What is truth defined ? For me it is Christ Jesus and Him risen from the dead who gave me a new life . I’ve been born again through His spirit to newness of life . I am a new creature in Christ , I am now goi g to glorify Him in my body while I still reside on earth and I will be bound by His Word . Will I do it perfect ? No I can’t , nobody can . Is the student greater than the master ? No
Set apart some time to enter into a life that begins and ends in eternity . This is not that bogus fakery you have seen on TV , it’s not about charlatans and wanna be’s . It’s about one man who was GOD in the flesh , He reveals himself in the Bible and I can attest that He is real and He transformed my life and made me whole again and set me free .
“Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin; That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God. For the time past of our life may suffice us to have wrought the will of the Gentiles, when we walked in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries: Wherein they think it strange that ye run not with them to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you: Who shall give account to him that is ready to judge the quick and the dead. For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit. But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer. And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins. Use hospitality one to another without grudging. As every man hath received the gift, even so minister the same one to another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God. If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you: But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy. If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified. But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters. Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf. For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.”
1 Peter 4:1-19 KJV
https://www.bible.com/1/1pe.4.1-19.kjv
I don't think that yellow/turquouise and up will be able to be categorised as left or right wing.
One of the problems of Darwinian evolution is that it can't create new species, it can only customise around a set template.
Zen Wilber.
So there are methods for waking up. Are there any methods for growing up apart from just living life?
Ken Buddhism.
I'm pretty sure I'm at the yellow/turquoise stage of growing up and have only had two waking up experiences. One was the most amazing dream I have ever had and the other was when I was recovering from a general anaesthetic. The general anaesthetic one was most probably drug induced although it was never the less an amazing experience. I have taken Ketamine since then and have not had that same experience again.
He talks a lot. Or more so he has an abundance to tell. He doesn't have any questions left I guess. No more inquiry.
If Wilber believes liberal values (which so often are simple anthropocentrism based on the conception of man as a pure self devoid of natural and cultural differential properties) have something to do with spiritual enlightenment, he's deeply confused.
360p smh
What the hell does any thing have to do with who is president??
Wow…
Brilliant.
I met Wilber around his table in his penthouse in Denver a few times when I was a teenager. I'm saying this so you people think I'm cool. But it's true. Remarkable man.
1hr 45 min Trump stuff starts.
I would very much doubt that any physicist would call self-organization a force in the sense of the four fundamental forces. They describe fundamental types of interactions whereas self-organization is a type of emergent dynamic caused by the balance of interactions and statistical tendencies on different scales. In chemistry for instance, self-organization is often fully explained with recourse only to the electromagnetic force.
This is not to say that it is less real than the four forces, only that it is a different kind of "thing".
Okay mister Wilber, all that is, in short the philosophical view of the concepts of left and right. I ask: Who applies that in day by day living and what significant does it have in practice? Very least, and so that is a non-answer, okay? Full point! Do not compromise me.
Interesting final summary (before the book discussion). The Trump phenomenon has forced the Post Modern/Post Truth "leading edge" news organizations to try to re-embrace Orange/Rational ideals that they should never have left behind. Sounds like Trump is helping flush some of the "psychosis" (Wilber term used to describe with memes fail to both transcend AND include). Or perhaps we could view this as Orange/Rationals will not buy in to a dysfunctional "Green" hierarchy. Will be interesting to see if the bifurcated Left (Green Post Modern relativist dominated by the PC Identity politics crowd and old school Orange/Rational Liberals) and conservative Orange/Rationals can find some sort of "Include" to enable the "Transcend".
Know all of this since 40 years- nice to hear it again. I like it that Ken Wilber is also referring to Jean Gebser, so very important.
St Suzuki got me into Emanuel swedenborg