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The Mathematics of Consciousness



Sabine Hossenfelder

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Addendum to what I say at 5 mins 18 seconds: Tegmark’s claim about the decoherence time has been disputed by Hameroff et al https://journals.aps.org/pre/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevE.65.061901

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In this video I talk about a few approaches to mathematically describe consciousness and their shortcomings. I also briefly talk about what such studies could one day be good for. You can watch the talks from the workshop that I mention (and many more!!) here:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWgIDgfzRDp-PmQvMsYiNlg

#Science #Mathematics #Consciousness

0:00 Intro
0:48 Integrated Information Theory
4:02 The Penrose-Hameroff microtubules conjecture
5:19 Palmer’s Quantum Creativity
6:26 Erra’s Optimal Synchronization
7:23 Mason’s Information Maximization
8:52 What is it good for?
9:39 Sponsor Message

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22 thoughts on “The Mathematics of Consciousness
  1. Does the brain create consciousness, or does consciousness create the brain. What really is reality . I'm not sure science is capable of answering this because the brain is a subset of consciousness, as is all reality

  2. iit does not explain what consciousness is, tonnoli himself said this and said there's no way to qualitatively explain it in terms of matter or information. when will people realize consciousness is a fundamental part of reality like fundamental particles, be it panpsychism or idealism it must be taken seriously.

  3. I think advertisement speeches at the end of videos are a mistake. The few bucks earned can't be worth putting a question mark on the credibility of the channel.

  4. Mindfulness training as mindfulness One of the paths has eight bodies. In studying this subject properly and will benefit from it. Must fully study the path with eight figures Buddhism has the answer.

  5. The notion of consciousness isn't even well-defined asaik. Is it just the capability of inducing and conducting thought processes, or is it the emergence of the qualis of self-perception? For the first part, it is well observed that our brain at least, being highly correlated with the family similarity of "consciousness", is a (probably deterministic) decentralized dynamic system. Any such system would fit in the category of the first pre-definition. The second pre-definition is just a meaningless, unverifiable language game we play with our mind, and Wittgenstein has already pointed out the inconsistency when it comes to studying it or even to talking about it. Maybe people have or at least will come up with verifiable, reserachable definitions, while at the same time keeping the results experimentally testable.

  6. Physicists to Penrose suddenly being transdisciplinary (not wrong in and by itself) vs. non physicists (neither experimental neuroscientists yet sadly certain scientists): damn, he's won the prize, therefore he must be right

  7. 7:21 A measure of consciousness could be….. I am sure many metrics could be called "consciousness". Reliable measurements might even be developed. But doubt those metrics are what people mean when they say "consciousness". Consciousness can't be explained any better than it can be defined.

  8. I am wondering if Roger Penrose's model of microtubules using some form of Topological effect of molecules in order to create oder of quantum energy levels in a warm and liquid enviienment.

  9. Consciousness is just a cognitive process like any other , but it's in a blind spot because it's with this cognitive process that we scrutinize the other one . With out mirror or likeminded individual we could well spend our all life wondering how what we see get in to our head , we can see a lot of things but we can't see our own eyes, we may merely realize their location . Same goes with consciousness , it's a cognitive process like any other but specialized in high level function , those same function used to study it .

  10. Disorientation of the sleeping position when beginning sleep; Changing from head to toe on the bed, has been known to decrease the entropy. Dream memory and alertness were aquired by many.
    Balancing Phi.
    Also: Bones precede neuron. Consciousness could be connected to bone density and vibration. Telling the brain what to do, using bone magnetism. Antenna signals that sound like humans, pulsing through the muscle control system. That is all that the brain does; control muscle. The bones have acoustics. Skeletons are hell to test. There are no testers for their magnetics. Calculations are the key. The bones are a field. Matrix the body and speaker math it. Sound from a stereo CD player requires slot of juice. Humans can make loud sounds that require equal amounts of juice. Where you ask, does the body get that juice from: The ground and air I say, just like a radio tower. You cannot increase consciousness because, it is not in everyone's commands to do so. My name is Charlie John Thomas

  11. What if our interpretation of conciousness is overall faulty. It's like you are driving a car. If it breaks down, you can't do anything about it. If your brain shuts down, you won't remember because your storage of information was offline. Conciousness could be an essence outside of our current understanding and not even be physicaly linked to our body as we think it is. Like an operator of a computer that is limited by what the machine can do or process. If it develops a fault, we can't do very much about it but try to repair it. If we can't get a spare part or don't know how to elimiate the fault, then we are stuck with the result but this doesn't affect the operator itself. If Conciousness is like the operator, then many things would make sense too, while we are still just examining the machine to find conciousness, but don't see beyond it to find the operator.

  12. You can't use math to understand WHY fundamental things are the way they are. I solved this using fundamentals of quantum thermodynamics. I've already figured this out..not to be cocky but I swear scientists aren't that smart at all, or they are liars and will lie to make themselves appear smart, but makes them appear dumb actually.

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