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How can we try to capture the commonalities and differences between linguistic sound systems? What makes one language sound different from another? In this week’s episode, we take a look at Optimality Theory: how we can use constraints to describe how phonology behaves, how we rank which rules we care most about breaking, and how changing our priorities leads to totally different sound outcomes.
This is Topic #82!
This week’s tag language: Hidatsa!
Related videos:
Rhymes and Reasons: The Shapes of Syllables – https://youtu.be/YON1pOcEhrA
Last episode:
Words from Another World: The Linguistics of Alien Languages – https://youtu.be/QVqDpY-11UM
Other of our phonology and phonetics videos:
The Melody of Feet: Stress Patterns in Phonology – https://youtu.be/MdId9wnMNg8
Phonation States: How We Vibrate to Make Sounds – https://youtu.be/edYLoMRgaFw
Nosing Around Phonetics: The Acoustics of Sonorants – https://youtu.be/g8BgfHEDbFY
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Sources:
Most of this week’s episode is based on information from Carlos Gussenhoven and Haike Jacobs’s book, Understanding Phonology.
There’s a great archive of papers (albeit scholarly) on Optimality Theory at the Rutgers Optimality Archive: http://roa.rutgers.edu/
Angus Grieve-Smith also has a good short introduction to OT here: https://www.scribd.com/document/25583046/A-Basic-Introduction-to-Optimality-Theory
The World Atlas of Linguistic Structures Online is a great resource for learning more about linguistic typology! Our specific source on syllable structure is http://wals.info/chapter/12 , but it’s a good place to poke around and learn things.
Looking forward to next time! .
Was thinking about optimality theory this morning, thanks.
OT is such a neat thing :). Personally I really liked reading some pragmatics OT articles (had to read them for pragmatics course).
Just to make sure I understand, this is specifically for borrowed words, right? Like, this would apply to the English phrase "deja vu", because it's stolen from French, but wouldn't apply to, say, "internet", which we made ourselves? Or am I missing something?
In reference to the "input"; what constitutes input? how would we know what the input is for a word within its own native language? or rather, does this theory only apply when it comes to borrowing foreign words?
I want that "I love phonetics" thing so bad
Isn't this phonotactics?
Hawaiian doesn't require an onset consonant for syllable construction. "Ua uē au i ia ua" is a perfectly valid sentence.
I've been waiting so long for the next episode!
This channel is so nerdy and I love it
I think this just explained a difference that I've noticed between American and Australian English. Americans seem to pronounce Antarctica as ant-arctica, compared to my pronunciation as an-tarctica. I've also noticed it with Martin (Mart-in vs Mar-tin). Is there a known difference between the priorities of English accents?
Tossing CVs all over the place like they're applying for jobs" THIS is the type of humour I am HERE for!
I just discovered your channel last night while looking for a video on predicate logic. I'm amazed you're not more popular than you are! This is an absolutely criminal amount of views for the wealth of informative and well-delivered content you have.
One of the best channels on Youtube, thanks for helping me survive my phonology class!
English also follows ident in writing especially when the word is from French (colonel) unless the word had/has a diacritic (Über) English doesn't like diacritics.
I have always wanted a channel like this! Language evolution is so fascinating but it's way out of my field so I need someone to explain it to me layman style. Thank you for your videos! I think your videos would be even better if you had more imagery or some colbert report-style area on the side. It would help me keep up with all the knowledge you're dropping!
Hey Moti, just curious about two points that you have presented as phonotactic universals:
1) At around 3:30: "there are no languages that ban you from putting consonants in the beginning of syllables"
2) Around 4:20: "no language requires you to have a coda; it's always optional"
Are these only meant to be constraints on the surface-level, phonetic realization of a given word, independent of the phonemes it contains? I was doing some reading on Aboriginal Australian languages a while back and I recall Breen & Pensalfini (1999) and Tabain, Breen, & Butcher (2004) claiming that the Arandic languages of central Australia (most prominently the Arrernte group) do not allow onset consonants or empty codas at the phonemic level, and are underlyingly VC(C) in their syllabic structure.
However, syllables are commonly realized on the surface-level as CV or CVC through conditioned deletion/epenthesis (as an example, the relevant allophony of Upper Arrenrte is presented here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Arrernte_language#Phonotactics)
and so I was wondering if such languages still conform to the constraints above.
Thanks, love the channel!
You helped me a lot 🙂 🙂 🙂
Thank you so much!
Still, Phonology is killing me 🙁
Thank you!!!! My partner and I get it now! Come teach our class! haha
i love this channel and your humor! thanks for making this topic fun and interesting .
I like the way you explain things. Could you please make another video about the emergent phonology? Thank you very much:)
Oh wait, Japanese does not have the "V" sound, they pronounce them like "b" so that the "Venom" is actually pronounced as
"Benomu".
I finish my final year of my English Language degree in two days and I FIND THIS CHANNEL NOW??? Where were you when i was panicking over markedness and faithfulness in first year??? lmao
This OT is always a riddle for me!
What makes a violation fatal exactly?
wait so how do we know where to place the violations?
OT really shines when it comes to describing stress systems as well. That's probably my favorite application of the framework ^^
Great video, as always!
Omg, the ending tho! Thats cool to hear hidatsa on youtube makes me happy.
Pyralsprite <3
Not at all subtle with the GG references ( ̄ω ̄)
Pretty sure Eddie starts with some type of glottal constriction in its onset; most English vowels word-initially tend to.
this is so fuking confusing haaaaaah..how does OT apply to reduplication
Thanks
I love this channel! Thank you!
Anyone else slightly feel like a prevert hearing Doppelgänger Lieberman say “violated”?
In all seriousness though, the short&tight angled “business” facial style suits you him; even at the cost of his evil nature. An evil so subtle yet complete, that only those antithetical virtues of benevolent nobility attributed to this dimension’s Lieberman match in range & magnitudes…
Wherever he is…
Anyhoo, It’d be swell if Bizarro Lieberman could do more videos, or possibly a whole playlist on writing systems! I am doing work in this area and so much potential has never been so unedamined as that of experimental Linguistics.
Modeling the written word to engage the imagination and contextualize thoughts. change minds and cultures wash civilization anew as tides do unto a beach. Language shapes us just as we shape it, yet if so, what does our palaver tell of us?
Perhaps the most important skill in communicating, is knowing how to use a period.
After watching your video, I may say that you are an expert in linguistic field. Congratulations from the bottom of my heart. Addtionally, I wonder if I could ask you something related to phonological theories. Would you mind?
aahhh ok so i know this video is old but im in a phonology class entirely using OT and the section on metrical phonology was actually bonkers. anyway phonology is my jam pls do more episodes on it thaaank
¡Qué video tan útil! Me encanto.
Hey, could you do a video on OT approaches to syntax?
I feel like there seriously needs to be a video on substance-free phonology on this channel to even the playing field, coming from someone who firmly believes in SFP! OT is not by any means the only way to do phonology.
Can anyone tell me which theory will be used for those who misarticulate the sounds ??? For example those who lisper??I want it for my assignment
Could you guys talk about segments and suprasegments sometime? Thxxx
I don't quite understand what the "!" means in the tableau…
yay
Thank you for the clear explanation!
Hi. What's an onset in simple word? Please give example