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Do we see reality as it is? Cognitive psychologist, Donald Hoffman explains how our perceptions have evolved to become like a computer interface and what real-life implications this has today.
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Donald Hoffman: Donald Hoffman is an American cognitive psychologist at the University of California, Irvine. His forthcoming book, ‘The Case Against Reality’, argues that perception doesn’t present things as they are but instead acts like a desktop interface enabling us to interact with the world.
For more from Donald Hoffman, watch him debate his ideas in
The Reality Illusion | Full Debate | Donald Hoffman, Maria Baghramian, Hilary Lawsonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUWaEwbLkzQ
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Dude in background jumping into the water at 33:07
How is this different than Kantian metaphysics?
Awesome interview! What a beautiful setting too! I couldn't help but notice the guy in the background enjoying himself jumping in the water and swimming. Who ever designed this game of reality did a superb job! Perhaps we all need to just jump in the water and have fun like this background interface guy, sometimes. Just taste the vanilla rather than talking about whether it's real or not. Still, love this scientist's views of this world and his humbleness!
this is one of the top three most fascinating things I saw on youtube.
Great, so if I project the reality, how do I change it?
That was a quick 40 minutes. Great interview
1 objection, reality isnt evolved, our world created with symbols, not see directly reality…so chemistry, biology etc help to see behind symbols….reunderstant reality with reverse engineering so called science!
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so what your saying is that poo is NOT brown and it DOESN'T come out your bum
Great interview whoever the interviewer was. As other folks have commented, longer interviews with DH were less insightful.
I see (render) an apple, look away and it disappears and then I look back later and the apple is there (rendered) again. If it were an ice cube not an apple, when I do the same thing when I look again I dont render an ice cube but a pool of water🧐 why?
Also when he says “suppose I have a visualisation tool ……. our headset”. What and where is this visualisation tool within my network of CAs? It’s not my brain as this is only an icon.
“The more we learn the more we realize how little we know.” — R. Buckminster Fuller
It is not possible to prove that "the physical does not exist" by using the physical?
My thoughts since ever. ❤️
What a brave man that raise this idea and subject in an "old world" of scientists.
Perhaps our scientists are underpaid and need more £sd.
But how can you be confident that natural selection drives truthful perception to extinction if you have no clue as to what nature is?
consciousness is temperature difference.
If one is to study a wave, it is a spiral, if a wave is a spiral, it can only go in one direction, if it only goes in one direction (osmosis) then waves like sound or colour, literally screw into our brain in one direction, to interfere with this ‘frequency’, the cancellation is possible for the duration of another frequency interference.
reality is a wave and not a particle. Reality is knowing water exists in movement as a spiral.
This view seems to be very much like what the upanishads propound…….
This world is all a fleeting show!for man's illusion given.😉
If we could see everything we would just see blank
Since u guys think this reality is fake..send me your money
He made sense until about 12:00. Then we went off the rails, became incoherent and I lost interest.
How can we talk about reality when we haven't even got there.
Who knows for true, that you are thinking on your own and not using the thoughts from someone else who took part in educating you. Not being aware of this condition, that you were influenced with informations from birth on, is not being aware of what you are saying to be correct. From a false perspective I will have false interpretations of my thoughts.
It's like, a blind man depending on others to tell him how his world's surrounding looks like and everything else he cannot see. The picture he than constructs of his surroundings may be false depending on his understanding.
The confusion that has come up because of the many discoveries in short periods, that are arbitrarily set together, have created varieties of theories about reality, consciousness, brain functions and spirituality.
But I think, we have to get to the roots of our being, with a clear mind, to fully concentrate of what is not being deceived from outer influence, and to have a healthy perception of the here and now.
Our brain potentials are not yet exhausted, why wrestle with imaginary thoughts that may be samples for development and construction?
We know that the brains capacity goes way over its limits when its challenged. The brain conducts, the motoric allows a person with no arms to use their foot , mouth, in exchange for the missing arm to do the duties in a astonishing skilled way.
The heart brain function is also observable in relation with emotions.
If engineers would try to explain to us, a car wouldn't exist without all the screws in it, they might be right in one way if we look at the car in pieces, but the screws and all other parts must exist to have it made a car.
Reality will only be real to us, when we see it with our own eyes, and not through a setup lens held by someone else.
Inviting those interested to come by the Facebook group to discuss his amazing theory!!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/384819679565987/?ref=share
The lower level consciousness may not be aware of the higher but the higher level is aware of the constant devil on the left shoulder.
Does this mean there is a life after life because it’s simulated..
I’m kinda wanna agree with him but on the other side.. that’s the reason why we hear sound instead of seeing soundwaves right ? So it’s al made up easier for us to intercept and interact with it.. but I wanna believe that we’re in a simulation..
Haven't read the book but I'm curious to know how Hoffman can base his theory that humans are incapable of perceiving reality accurately on evolution, which is a theory based heavily on experiments, which is a valid method only if you work from the presumption that humans are capable of perceiving reality fairly accurately. Maybe I missed something.
Interesting but does he have any evidence to back it up? He says the apple is an icon, but how does he know it is not?
What’s missing is “God”
Fun damental is taking consciousness as reality, sow, it seems like…
Personal paths of least resistance.
He didn't touch the point if evolution is the process with a certain goal, there must be the lead process engineer who created this process and updates it periodically, and some number of process engineers and operators who control and maintain it. And the General Manager, of course, who has combined all of them in a team and assigned them roles. So, no matter how vaste the society of scientists is they cannot win religion in this eternal disput of existence of the creator and the bunch of holly creatures 🙂 they just will reach the same point by the much longer way 🙂 However, maybe going this way they will be able to find the reason of human's existence 🤔 🙂
I would love to see a conversation between Donald Hoffman and Joscha Bach.
Does the sun create the photons, or does photons create the sun……?!
The answer to this question its obvious, and the answer concludes the question about objective reality versus virtual reality
quite easy……
Who noticed the swimming guy at 32:19 and was he NAKED? 2nd time I've watched this video and never noticed it the first time. What does that say about the nature of reality …
29:22 this, education makes you more compassionate
His theory is very similar to vedantic philosophy
So basically, Lovecraft was right! 😀
Two Indian sages have figured it out, Sri ramana maharashi and Sri nisgadartta Maharaj. The universe depends on consciousness and not vice versa, this can be experienced through self inquiry/meditation. Everything appears and disappears in brahman (consciousness)
so what happens when we take off our headset??
Maybe that explains why I don't find what I'm looking for, and when I look for it the second time, the object is where it should be!!