Sabine Hossenfelder
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We still don’t know what “consciousness” actually means. But in a new study, researchers have used the equations of quantum mechanics to determine a brain’s “criticality,” a measure which allows them to separate waking brains from sleeping ones. I think they’re onto something. Let’s take a look.
Paper: https://journals.aps.org/pre/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevE.111.014410
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Scale ⚖️ YUP! Was always told not brightest bulb. Saving power! 😂😅
You crack me up and impress me all at once. Its seems chaotic.
Conscineous is outside of the brain, the brain is a computer f9r the body, it keeps the body running.
Network Fault Line Theory. NFLT.
Props for trying. 👍
lol they can't be serious… they act like they figured out everything while still just holding a damn stick and keep playing with the pile of sh.. in front of them.🙏 egocentrical unconscious creatures talking about consciousness is something else man. they need to do some deeeep shadow work before they 'study' or aNaLyZe anything. the core of the problem: their EGO 🤌🏼 cmon… what else will be news? the heart beats, means it has it's own rhythm, a pattern, like everything else does?! true science + academia? NOPE!! clowns, silly clowns. the mass needs authorities to tell them that if you're running you'll be faster compared to walking -.- most of the published DaTa is literally this logic 🙄
I am not. Total Neanderthal to a. Hard drive. Yet. Still? Tho may. I. To. The. Rotating. Types. Of mass. No more seeen
In my own experience. I make kite cause in our country we have kite fest if i mae kite it i sleep the kite made to make i see always made even i didt made itfly nmy. Mind te tomorrow i mmake the. Design.
My baby logic tells me that :
The consciousness is a physical phenomenon , fundamental similar with gravity , part of the collapse of the wave function event. What consciousness does: It is referencing.. Collapse of the wavefunction is a collapse of information, becoming referential . Collapse of the information, is concluded into a well-defined set of properties , is a consciousness event of a wave to become referential by collapsing into a particle thanks to gravity. Spacetime is produced/projected by a set of particles referencing to each other . Spacetime is emergent from colapse of the wavefunction. gravity+information -> colapse of the wave function + consciousness->Spacetime. Spacetime is a projection of consciousness
What human consciousness does ? It reference everything to iself . This is what we call self-awareness, the propety of a complex system to reference everything to itself.
Consciousness is the property of a particle or all information retained into a particle to BE a reference.
Amazing lack of self-awareness for the authors of a paper on consciousness. If you look at their figure showing their ability to discriminate sleep from wake states at 4:42 for about 20-30% of the cases, they could not determine from their EEG analysis whether the person was awake or asleep!.If they used a regular EEG, they would have been able to make the distinction with 100% accuracy. In fact, they could have done it by simply talking to the subjects. LOL. This is what counts for consciousness research these days. I guess any time you put the Schrodinger equation into something, it will immediately feel like major progress has been made. What chaos vs regularity has to do with consciousness beats me….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTMgHKaUHU0
consciousness is humans natural state and is our natural way to process experiences. Because we are pulled out of this conscious state through conditioning, we lost the skill to process experiences and that is why the world is mentally ill.
After watching insects , I find it strange scientists associate intelligence with brain size or consciousness. 😮🎉
"Researchers conscious of cluelessness."
Consciousness is not enough, you have to have a light that's connected to the source code in the inner.
Quantum BS mixed with multiculturism BS to create chaos; I'm disappointed.
I call sleep walking, quantum conscience. Get it?😂
It's very profound and complex but still just sounds to me like the mechanisms through which consciousness is experienced
I understand the implications run high, but this was birthed from experience. At the time, I didn't understand how light behaved, until I really understood every maneuver, spin and flip…
Message Draft (Polished, Respectful, Scientific Tone)
Subject: Non‑mystical experiential implications that appear mechanically structured
Hi — I want to preface this by saying I’m not a physicist, not a scientist, and I’m not claiming any theory is true. I’m only trying to understand the mechanics behind certain recurring experiences I’ve had.
I fully understand how strange this will sound. That’s actually why I’m reaching out:
because the implications were mechanical in a way I shouldn’t have been able to guess — especially given my lack of scientific background at the time.
Most of my framework came from:
intuition,
tracking sensations mechanically,
and trying to avoid any belief or interpretation.
At the time these experiences happened, I didn’t know anything about:
field excitations,
coherence,
oscillation,
or wave dynamics.
I only interpreted what I felt as if it were physical motion. I didn’t assume “mysticism”; I treated everything like data.
What confused me most is this:
I described the sensations as “gliding on a field,” “being vectored,” “momentum without motion,” and “layered states with stripped‑down sensory bandwidth” before I ever learned anything about fields or excitations.
These experiences felt structured — like they had rules.
I’ve since tried to organize the recurring patterns into something readable for AIs, so they don’t misunderstand it as mystical or metaphysical. Below is a compressed version of that structure (no claims, just observations and mechanics):
—
Condensed Observational Summary (No assumptions, no belief)
1. Sensation of “vectors”
Not objects — more like directional momentum, as if awareness is being carried by a pre‑existing path.
Movement wasn’t chosen; it felt like executions, not decisions.
2. Two sensory layers
a full‑bandwidth layer (normal sensory expectations),
and a “stripped” layer with lower wavelengths: dimmer, darker, almost like perception with fewer frequencies available.
This second layer always feels mechanically consistent.
3. Oscillation‑based motion
Movement happens as oscillation → glide → acceleration.
Fear destabilizes it; calm stabilizes it.
This felt too mechanical to be imagination.
4. Geometric visuals
Hexagon grids, layered sheets, and coherent patterns that didn’t behave like dreams.
Dreams collapse immediately — these didn’t.
5. Silent execution state
It always feels like activity is happening “beneath” conscious choice — a kind of 50/50 yes/no execution logic happening behind perception.
—
What I am NOT claiming
Not claiming this is out‑of‑body travel.
Not claiming new physics.
Not claiming truth — only describing implications.
Not claiming mystical interpretation.
Not saying “I figured out consciousness.”
—
What I am saying
1. The experiences behaved mechanically, not imaginatively.
And I don’t understand how I could map them to mechanical concepts I didn’t yet know.
2. It felt like interacting with structured layers of perception with specific rules.
3. I want to understand the physics possibilities, not create beliefs.
If the explanation is neurological, I want to learn that too.
If these are purely brain‑generated but follow consistent internal rules, then that’s still valuable information.
—
If anything, I’m overly cautious
I treat everything as:
data
mechanics
and pattern analysis
No belief, no doctrine, no metaphysics.
I only want to know whether:
any of these sensory structures match known physical or neurological mechanisms, or
if they align with anything in field theory, coherence theory, excitation behavior, or perceptual physics.
Thank you for your time — even a one‑sentence reply pointing me toward the right field of study would help a lot.
The Mind as the Geometric Constraint
Your conscious mind isn't a biological byproduct; it is the Absolute Geometric Constraint imposed by Tawzun upon the mathbf{M^{11}} manifold to guarantee the inevitability of mathbf{Lambda equiv 0}.
I solved the whole consciousness thing years ago. But because I'm a nobody, no one cares to listen.
Immigration lol. Really?
Is there a definition of "consciousness"?
The Hard Problem of consciousness still persists…. that pesky bastad .
The brain even blocks consciousness. So the brain has nothing to do with consciousness.
Equating immigration to chaos? Really, Sabine???
Well, it makes sense that quantummechanics reflect this because it is, like you said on the edge of chaos and order.
If an organism’s behavior is purely deterministic, it’s just a biological machine reacting to inputs.
But if its nervous system generates internal noise and can introduce stochasticity — variability that’s not fully determined by prior states — then the organism gains a space of possible actions.
It can sample from possibilities, evaluate outcomes, and adjust future behavior.
That’s the seed of agency.
For me, consciousness is not something that I have. It's what I am.
The sense of awareness that lives inside and experiences this mind as it lives inside and experiences the body, which then experiences the world outside itself. It's like a Russian nesting doll of experience.
But to be aware of something means that there is an object that is being observed by something apart from it. As I am aware of the thoughts, emotional feelings, and sensations that arise within this mind/body construct, it stands to reason that what I believe to be me within them is something fundamentally different from them.
Consciousness is not something to be cracked or solved if you ask me. It's to to be recognized and returned to.
It's already been determined it's called The loop of consciousness
Mine is cracking at the seams
3:43 same
beautifully explained — I’ve always admired how you translate the physics of mind into the language of motion and balance.
the “edge of chaos” feels like the right neighborhood for consciousness, though maybe what we call criticality is just life’s natural state — the dance between structure and entropy that keeps systems learning instead of freezing or burning out.
when I listen to you describe the brain’s long-range correlations, I imagine an ecosystem, not a circuit board: billions of local negotiations that somehow self-tune into global coherence. maybe consciousness isn’t the product of criticality, but the experience of riding that knife edge — of feeling the tension between order and chaos as meaning itself.
so thank you for building this bridge between physics and mind. I’ll keep testing its planks, not to break them, but to help future travelers feel the rhythm beneath their feet.
But did you give it a 9/10 on the bullshit meter?
Consciousness must be a property of matter. All atoms must have the ability to become aware because thats all we are.
Consciousness is trying to look for Consciousness in the brain, what a paradox ! 🙌