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“The Observer Is the Observed” Explained: What It Means for Consciousness and Reality



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Have you ever questioned the nature of your own perception? What if the observer is the observed—meaning there is no separation between you and what you perceive? This mind-expanding idea, deeply explored by J. Krishnamurti, challenges our fundamental understanding of consciousness, reality, and self-awareness.

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  1. When I was put under during an operation and moved to a different room ,I woke up and it tripped me out because I realized I was gone and when I came back I was truly lost and screamed where in the hell am I and what happened to me, they said I was put under, I thought the shot would numb me not black me out, u feel freaking nothing and I was only aware that I was lost for a period of time totally lost,weird. We are the watchers,our thoughts are not ours our reactions are.

  2. Ditto 100 percent Death is A illusion’ we all
    Have been dead 1000
    Of lives ‘ Some good some bad ‘we all
    Know ‘ 3 D Earth 🌎 is were all sols go 2 school 🏫 The Say we all have 2 die before we Die😈we all are Extremely powerful ❤️Healthy & Extremely old & Wise ‘when we learn 2 live in the moments of Now ‘👁️And The Father Are 1 There is no other ‘our kingdoms come from within our Devine Queendoms’of 1 ❤

  3. Who is listening? The observer, but can the observer listen without the mind, the ability to process language, take the mind away, what is the observer left with.. rather the obsever returns to the original, without an identity, without distortion, to peace.

  4. It's an ancestor simulation. I believe on the other side, it's the future, and they are suffering from all of the problems we have here in this earth sim, but advanced dyer state, and they are running ancestor simulations.

  5. I am a physicist and I explain why current physics leaves not room for the possibility that brain processes can be a sufficient condition for the existence of consciousness. The hypothesis that consciousness emerges from, or can be identified with physical, chemical or biological processes is incompatible with current physics.

    It is a scientifically established fact that a mental experience is associated with numerous distinct microscopic physical processes that occur at different points; there is no physical entity that connects all these distinct microscopic processes, therefore the existence of mental experience requires an element of connection that is not described by current physics. This missing element of connection can be identified with what we traditionally refer to as the soul (in my youtube channel you can find a video with more detailed explanations).

    Emergent properties are often thought of as arising from complex systems (like the brain). However, I argue that these properties are subjective cognitive constructs that depend on the level of abstraction we choose to analyze and describe the system. Since these descriptions are mind-dependent, consciousness, being implied by these cognitive contructs, cannot itself be an emergent property.

    Preliminary considerations: the concept of set refers to something that has an intrinsically conceptual and subjective nature and implies the arbitrary choice of determining which elements are to be included in the set; what can exist objectively are only the individual elements. Defining a set is like drawing an imaginary line to separate some elements from others. This line doesn't exist physically; it’s a mental construct. The same applies to sequences of processes—they are abstract concepts created by our minds.

    Mental experiences are necessary for the existence of subjectivity/arbitrariness and cognitive constructs; Therefore, mental experience itself cannot be just a cognitive construct.

    Obviously we can conceive the concept of consciousness, but the concept of consciousness is not actual consciousness; We can talk about consciousness or about pain, but merely talking about it isn’t the same as experiencing it. (With the word consciousness I do not refer to self-awareness, but to the property of being conscious= having a mental experiences such as sensations, emotions, thoughts, memories and even dreams)

    From the above considerations it follows that only indivisible elements may exist objectively and independently of consciousness, and consequently the only logically coherent and significant statement is that consciousness exists as a property of an indivisible element. Furthermore, this indivisible entity must interact globally with brain processes because there is a well-known correlation between brain processes and consciousness. However, this indivisible entity cannot be physical, since according to the laws of physics, there is no physical entity with such properties. The soul is the missing element that interprets globally the distinct elementary physical processes occurring at separate points in the brain as a unified mental experience.

    Clarifications

    The brain itself doesn't exist objectively as a mind-independent entity. The concept of the brain is based on separating a group of quantum particles from everything else, which is a subjective process, not dictated purely by the laws of physics. Actually there is a continuous exchange of molecules with the blood and when and how such molecules start and stop being part of the brain is decided arbitrarily. An example may clarify this point: the concept of nation. Nation is not a physical entity and does not refer to a mind-independent entity because it is just a set of arbitrarily chosen people. The same goes for the brain.

    Brain processes consist of many parallel sequences of ordinary elementary physical processes occurring at separate points. There is no direct connection between the separate points in the brain and such connections are just a subjective abstractions used to approximately describe sequences of many distinct physical processes. Indeed, considering consciousness as a property of an entire sequence of elementary processes implies the arbitrary definition of the entire sequence; the entire sequence as a whole (and therefore every function/property/capacity attributed to the brain) is a subjective abstraction that does not refer to any mind-independendent reality.

    Physicalism/naturalism is based on the belief that consciousness is an emergent property of the brain. However, an emergent property is defined as a property that is possessed by a set of elements that its individual components do not possess; my arguments prove that this definition implies that emergent properties are only subjective cognitive constructs and therefore, consciousness cannot be an emergent property. Actually, emergent properties are just simplified and approximate descriptions or subjective classifications of underlying physical processes or properties, which are described directly by the fundamental laws of physics alone, without involving any emergent properties (arbitrariness/subjectivity is involved when more than one option/description is possible). An approximate description is only an abstract idea, and no actual entity exists per se corresponding to that approximate description, simply because an actual entity is exactly what it is and not an approximation of itself. What physically exists are the underlying physical processes. Emergence is nothing more than a cognitive construct that is applied to physical phenomena, and cognition itself can only come from a mind; thus emergence can never explain mental experience as, by itself, it implies mental experience.

    Conclusions

    My approach is based on scientific knowledge of the brain's physical processes. My arguments show that physicalism is incompatible with the very foundations of scientific knowledge because current scientific understanding of molecular processes excludes the possibility that brain processes alone can account for the existence of consciousness.

    An indivisible non-physical element must exist as a necessary condition for the existence of consciousness because mental experiences are linked to many distinct physical processes occurring at different points; it is therefore necessary for all these distinct processes to be interpreted collectively by a mind-independent element, and a mind-independent element can only be intrinsically indivisible because it cannot depend on subjectivity. This indivisible element cannot be physical because the laws of physics do not describe any physical entity with the required properties.

    Marco Biagini

  6. There's nothing in our organic bodies that can create and hold memories. No consiousness.. Our bodies are antennas, and we are observing from a distance its like our bodies are avatars in this holographic universe… Maybe we are all dead somewhere and just dreaming life after life….

  7. Hello all! 😊 This is an invitation to join a world wide prayer, meditation to send love and healing light out to our planet and all living beings on her as well. It will be at 8 pm Eastern time, USA. Pease join us, wherever you are, and take a few minutes to join in. Thank you. Love and light to you all and to our planet. ❤😊❤

  8. I listened to this as I fell asleep and in the dream I was in a Dr's office in an examining room speaking with a doctor. As the doctor spoke all of a sudden he froze mid sentence. I stood there looking at him and he was a perfect statue frozen in time. Not breathing, blinking or moving. I moved around him in disbelief. I then exited the room, turned left and walked down the hallway to the main waiting room. All his nurses and assistants were all frozen at the exact moment in time at what they had been doing when time stopped. It was amazing. One assistant at the desk had been standing holding a phone. I walked up to her very close to her face and she was a frozen in time statue. I touched her cheek with my index finger then ran my finger along the ridge of her nose yet she was perfectly still and locked in time. Then I gradually woke up listening to this audio in the background talking about what Eckhart Tolle said about the power of now. This dream was in full color and to be honest it was a bit like being inside a Twilight Zone or Outer Limits episode. The Eckhart Tolle part was at 02:34:11

  9. You are the awareness, the I, the constant observer and always being observed. I listened, dozed off, and the consciousness in me won't stop "thinking." Who's listening in 2025?

  10. I listened to this all night and fell asleep during but woke up with a refreshed understanding of the importance of being aware of the monkey mind and the benifits of being the witness..thank you😊

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